Why doesn't Google find my page anymore?

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A few years back I started attending meetings of a a chronic illness
support group and offered to try to set up a web page for the group.  I
had no previous web authoring experience so I checked out some books
from the library and used the GeoCities web builder software to set up
the page.  I called the page SeattleCFS and tried to set up the
keywords at the top of the page so that anyone Googling "Seattle CFS
Support Group" would find our page.

Then I submitted my page to a number of free indexing services and
within a few months, sure enough, when I typed "Seattle CFS Support
Group" into Google, my page came up at the top of the list.

Then one day a group member set up his own competing page, which was
fine with me, "the more the merrier" I say.  He called his page
"Seattle CFS and Fibro."  And I have to say that it's a much superior
effort.  This guy definitely knows his HTML code and produced a greatly
superior web page.  But for various reasons the group wanted to keep my
page as the official group page.  So I put a link to his page on my

Well, I've been really sick all winter, and haven't been able to spend
much time at all at my computer.  But I've been feeling a little better
this month, so this morning I decided to check up on my web page, and
Googled "Seattle CFS Support Group" and was disappointed to find that
not only did my page not show up at all, but that my competitor's page
now shows up as number one on the list.

So, I'm wondering.  Why doesn't my page show up on Google anymore?  And
why does the search string that used to put my page at the top of the
list, now put my friendly competitor's page on top?

Here's my URL:

       http://www.geocities.com/seattlecfs /

And here's the URL to my friend's page:

      http://www.geocities.com/seattlecfsandfibro /

Will in Seattle
a.k.a. "Clueless"

P.S.  If my query is out of place in this newsgroup, I'd be grateful
for suggestions on where I could get some help solving this mystery.

Re: Why doesn't Google find my page anymore?


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Google has been a bit flaky lately; dropping pages for no reason etc.
Google does show a few pages linking to you.

And your page does come up on MSNsearch.

I didn't see anything on your page that would get you banned, but
there's not much in the way of content either. Your competitor certainly
has you beat in that regard. Try adding some more content and then use
Google's manual submit tool:


Re: Why doesn't Google find my page anymore?

Thanks Red!

I just resubmitted my page to Google.

You're certainly right that my friend has outdone me in every
conceivable measure of web page design.  But for reasons unrelated to
web page quality, the group prefers to use my page as it's official
page, and I guess I've let them down by letting it get dropped from
Google's index.

It's been years since I originally submittied my page to Google.   It
just occurred to me that perhaps I need to resubmit my page from time
to time.  Is that the case?

If so;  how often should I resubmit my page?

Also I'm wondering if it would be possible for someone else to take
some action that would cause my page to be dropped.

Will in Seattle
a.k.a. "Clueless"

Re: Why doesn't Google find my page anymore?


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I think you need to add some more supporting text, i.e. you can
summarize some of the info available here:

If you look here:
You'll see that it says:
"Government information at NLM Web sites is in the public domain. Public
domain information may be freely distributed and copied, but it is
requested that in any subsequent use the National Library of Medicine
(NLM) be given appropriate acknowledgement."

You don't want to do any wholesale copying because Google can usually
detect duplicates of other web pages, but you can "summarize" and adapt
it to expand your site quite a bit with very little effort.

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Not really. But I would if one of my sites were dropped.

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If someone rightfully complains that you are using some kind of "black
hat" SEO, but I don't see that on your page.


Re: Why doesn't Google find my page anymore?

Hi again, Red!

You suggested that I "add some more supporting text" to my page.

Does that mean that pages are rated by the sheer quantity of text on
the page, and that pages which don't contain a lot of text get dropped?

Will in Seattle
a.k.a. "Sleepless"

Re: Why doesn't Google find my page anymore?

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Rated by quantity AND QUALITY of the text on the page.  Just adding text won't
do you any good (and may hurt you).  Adding quality text appropriate to the
subject will improve your ranking.

It has nothing to do with metatags.  And search engines can't read images, so
they don't help at all.

Pages with little text generally don't get "dropped".  However, they don't have
a very high ranking in the search engines.

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Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.

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