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Can someone please recommend a good, free Web counter that doesn't

Thank you.

Tony

Re: Web counter recommendations

Tony W. wrote:
> Can someone please recommend a good, free Web counter that doesn't
>

I am using http://www.statcounter.com/ for a few of my sites. They do
require you to upgrade if you get too many hits. I basicly use it on domains
I am planning to sell as a "3rd" party to prove the traffic.

Re: Web counter recommendations

Viper wrote:
>
> Tony W. wrote:
> > Can someone please recommend a good, free Web counter that doesn't
> > require links to the sponsor showing on my Web site?
> >
>
> I am using http://www.statcounter.com/ for a few of my sites. They do
> require you to upgrade if you get too many hits. I basicly use it on domains
> I am planning to sell as a "3rd" party to prove the traffic.

Thanks, Viper.

How does Statcounter compare to Gostats.com?

I discovered Gostats.com yesterday while perusing a competitor's Web
site, so I decided to give it a try before I got any replies from my
question in this newsgroup.

Tony

Re: Web counter recommendations

Tony W. wrote:
> Viper wrote:
>>
>> Tony W. wrote:
>>> Can someone please recommend a good, free Web counter that doesn't
>>>
>>
>> I am using http://www.statcounter.com/ for a few of my sites. They do
>> require you to upgrade if you get too many hits. I basicly use it on
>> domains I am planning to sell as a "3rd" party to prove the traffic.
>
> Thanks, Viper.
>
> How does Statcounter compare to Gostats.com?
>
> I discovered Gostats.com yesterday while perusing a competitor's Web
> site, so I decided to give it a try before I got any replies from my
> question in this newsgroup.
>
> Tony

I dont use Gostats.com and didnt know it existed until I read your post.
With Statcounter I can get code/stats for every site I wish to put a
counter.

Re: Web counter recommendations

> Tony W. wrote:
>> Viper wrote:
>>>
>>> Tony W. wrote:
>>>> Can someone please recommend a good, free Web counter that doesn't
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am using http://www.statcounter.com/ for a few of my sites. They do
>>> require you to upgrade if you get too many hits. I basicly use it on
>>> domains I am planning to sell as a "3rd" party to prove the traffic.
>>
>> Thanks, Viper.
>>
>> How does Statcounter compare to Gostats.com?
>>
>> I discovered Gostats.com yesterday while perusing a competitor's Web
>> site, so I decided to give it a try before I got any replies from my
>> question in this newsgroup.
>>
>> Tony
>
> I dont use Gostats.com and didnt know it existed until I read your post.
> With Statcounter I can get code/stats for every site I wish to put a
> counter.
>
>

I use my own script

#!/usr/bin/perl

use DB_File;
use CGI::Pretty;
use GD;

$counter_database = '/tmp/algebra.com/access_counters.db';$cgi = new CGI::Pretty;
$key =$cgi->param( 'key' ) || "undef";
$init =$cgi->param( 'init' );
#    || die "$0: Sorry, no key was supplied by the page refering to counter."; (tie %counter_database, 'DB_File',$counter_database)
|| die "cannot tie to $counter_databasen"; #print STDERR "key = '$key', init = '$init'n"; if($init ) {
$counter =$counter_database = $init; } else {$counter = $counter_database + 1;$counter_database++;
}

untie %counter_database;

print $cgi->header(-type=>'image/jpeg', -expires=>'1s'); my$im = undef;

$im = new GD::Image( 91, 19 ); # allocate some colors$white = $im->colorAllocate(255,255,255);$black = $im->colorAllocate(0,0,0);$red = $im->colorAllocate(255,0,0);$blue = $im->colorAllocate(0,0,255);$black = $im->colorAllocate(0,0,0); # make the background transparent and interlaced$im->transparent($blue); #$im->interlaced('true');

$im->filledRectangle( 0, 0, 89, 18,$white );

my aligned_counter = sprintf( "%07d",counter );

$im->string(gdGiantFont,12,2,$aligned_counter,$black); #print STDERR "Counter =$counter.n";

print $im->jpeg( 80 ); -- Re: Web counter recommendations Ignoramus6609 wrote: > > I use my own script > > #!/usr/bin/perl > > use DB_File; > use CGI::Pretty; > use GD; > >$counter_database = '/tmp/algebra.com/access_counters.db';
>
> $cgi = new CGI::Pretty; >$key = $cgi->param( 'key' ) || "undef"; >$init = $cgi->param( 'init' ); > # || die "$0: Sorry, no key was supplied by the page refering to
counter.";
>
> (tie %counter_database, 'DB_File', $counter_database) > || die "cannot tie to$counter_databasen";
>
> #print STDERR "key = '$key', init = '$init'n";
>
> if( $init ) { >$counter = $counter_database =$init;
> } else {
>         $counter =$counter_database + 1;
>         $counter_database++; > } > > untie %counter_database; > > print$cgi->header(-type=>'image/jpeg', -expires=>'1s');
>
> my $im = undef; > >$im = new GD::Image( 91, 19 );
>
> # allocate some colors
> $white =$im->colorAllocate(255,255,255);
> $black =$im->colorAllocate(0,0,0);
> $red =$im->colorAllocate(255,0,0);
> $blue =$im->colorAllocate(0,0,255);
> $black =$im->colorAllocate(0,0,0);
>
> # make the background transparent and interlaced
> $im->transparent($blue);
> # $im->interlaced('true'); > >$im->filledRectangle( 0, 0, 89, 18, $white ); > > my$aligned_counter = sprintf( "%07d", $counter ); > >$im->string(gdGiantFont,12,2,aligned_counter,black);
>
> #print STDERR "Counter = $counter.n"; > > print$im->jpeg( 80 );

Thanks, Ignoramus.  :-)

I pasted your code within the body tag of a dummy page in Dreamweaver,
but the code all shows up on the WYSIWYG page.

Tony

Re: Web counter recommendations

> Can someone please recommend a good, free Web counter that doesn't
>

No.

Tne words "good" and "free" are tough enough, but "good" and "web counter"
simply don't go together.

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"

Re: Web counter recommendations

Eric Jarvis wrote:
>
> > Can someone please recommend a good, free Web counter that doesn't
> > require links to the sponsor showing on my Web site?
> >
>
> No.
>
> Tne words "good" and "free" are tough enough, but "good" and "web counter"
> simply don't go together.
>
> --
> eric
> www.ericjarvis.co.uk
> "live fast, die only if strictly necessary"

I found a counter today that's pretty good, considering it's free. It's
Gostats.com. Some of the statistics are hard to decipher, though.

Tony

Re: Web counter recommendations

>
>
> Eric Jarvis wrote:
> >
> > Tony W. not@my-real-email-address-to-deter-junk.mail wrote:
> > > Can someone please recommend a good, free Web counter that doesn't
> > > require links to the sponsor showing on my Web site?
> > >
> >
> > No.
> >
> > Tne words "good" and "free" are tough enough, but "good" and "web counter"
> > simply don't go together.
>
> I found a counter today that's pretty good, considering it's free. It's
> Gostats.com. Some of the statistics are hard to decipher, though.
>

It entirely depends on your definition of "good".

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"

Re: Web counter recommendations

And lo, Tony W. didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:

> Can someone please recommend a good, free Web counter that doesn't

Hit counters are an addictive refuge for webmasters with low self-esteem.

Grey

--
The technical axiom that nothing is impossible sinisterly implies the
pitfall corollory that nothing is ridiculous.
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Re: Web counter recommendations

GreyWyvern wrote:
>
> And lo, Tony W. didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:

Me thanks to you, Sir Grey Wyvern, who hast also bespoken in this very
cyber forum.
>
> > Can someone please recommend a good, free Web counter that doesn't
> > require links to the sponsor showing on my Web site?
>
> Hit counters are an addictive refuge for webmasters with low self-esteem.
>
> Grey

Yes, I can see how counters can be addictive; I eagerly checked my stats
as soon as I came home today after installing a counter this morning. I
hope that the novelty will wear off after a while so I don't spend a lot
of time checking the stats every day.

But I don't see why using a counter means I have low self-esteem. It's
an excellent market analysis tool. It shows how many customers my Web
site is reaching and details information about those customers and how
and when and what they're viewing on my Web site.

Let's say I designed a product brochure for my customers. Naturally it
would be smart to try to follow up on the response to the brochure: how
many people are reading it, where are they finding it, which parts of
the brochure are they concentrating on the most, what countries are they
from, etcetera. This is all potentially useful marketing information.

Tony

> The technical axiom that nothing is impossible sinisterly implies the
> pitfall corollory that nothing is ridiculous.
> - http://www.greywyvern.com/ringmaker - Orca Ringmaker: Host a web ring

Re: Web counter recommendations

> Can someone please recommend a good, free Web counter that doesn't
>
> Thank you.
>
> Tony

Tony,

most of the free services need to recoup their costs somehow which is why
they like you to display a banner - with the hope that the advertising they
get from that will bring them further customers or that you will pay to have
the banner removed. Something else to be aware of is that even if a service
is free/invisible now, that it may change in the future.

I maintain on my website a list of counters
(http://www.cryer.co.uk/resources/websitecounters.htm ) and trackers
(http://www.cryer.co.uk/resources/websitetracking.htm ). I accept that the
distinction between a tracker and a counter is blurred. But I take a tracker
to be something that will let you see how visitors have navigated through
your site - and these don't generally give you a visible counter service,
whilst a counter will give you the option of a visible counter on your page.
So it depends a little what you are after.

That said, the ones I'm aware of that don't require you to display a banner
(or at least didn't the last time I checked):

Web counters:
www.gemstats.com
www.nextgenstats.com
www.statcounter.com

Web trackers:
www.indextools.com

each of these will have different terms and conditions - typically there are
limits on the number of page views before you must upgrade to a paid
service.

hope this helps,

Brian Cryer

www.cryer.co.uk

Re: Web counter recommendations

Brian Cryer wrote:
>
> > Can someone please recommend a good, free Web counter that doesn't
> > require links to the sponsor showing on my Web site?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Tony
>
> Tony,
>
> most of the free services need to recoup their costs somehow which is why
> they like you to display a banner - with the hope that the advertising they
> get from that will bring them further customers or that you will pay to have
> the banner removed. Something else to be aware of is that even if a service
> is free/invisible now, that it may change in the future.
>
> I maintain on my website a list of counters
> (http://www.cryer.co.uk/resources/websitecounters.htm ) and trackers
> (http://www.cryer.co.uk/resources/websitetracking.htm ). I accept that the
> distinction between a tracker and a counter is blurred. But I take a tracker
> to be something that will let you see how visitors have navigated through
> your site - and these don't generally give you a visible counter service,
> whilst a counter will give you the option of a visible counter on your page.
> So it depends a little what you are after.
>
> That said, the ones I'm aware of that don't require you to display a banner
> (or at least didn't the last time I checked):
>
> Web counters:
>     www.gemstats.com
>     www.nextgenstats.com
>     www.statcounter.com
>
> Web trackers:
>     www.indextools.com
>
> each of these will have different terms and conditions - typically there are
> limits on the number of page views before you must upgrade to a paid
> service.
>

I tried Gostats.com today and it doesn't require any banner ads to be
placed on my site.

Gostats has a paid version, so if the company decides to eliminate the
free version, I hope that it would still offer the paid version.

However, the cost of the paid version is $8 U.S. per month, which would be hard for me to get used to paying after getting the service for free. How do those counters that you recommend compare to Gostats.com? Would it be worthwhile for me to switch to one of those counters? Which one do you think is the best? > hope this helps, > > Brian Cryer > > www.cryer.co.uk Cheerio, mate, from Canada's western coast. Tony Re: Web counter recommendations Tony W. wrote: > ... > Gostats has a paid version, so if the company decides to eliminate the > free version, I hope that it would still offer the paid version. > > However, the cost of the paid version is$8 U.S. per month ...

Sometimes 'free' is just too expensive.

How much[1] is paid hosting?

[1] Hosts: please save your breath - this is an exercise for the OP.
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Re: Web counter recommendations

William Tasso wrote:
>
> Tony W. wrote:
> > ...
> > Gostats has a paid version, so if the company decides to eliminate the
> > free version, I hope that it would still offer the paid version.
> >
> > However, the cost of the paid version is $8 U.S. per month ... > > Sometimes 'free' is just too expensive. What do you mean, William? "Free" means that there is no expense. Please explicate. > How much[1] is paid hosting? I'm paying about$48 U.S. per month for fast Internet connectivity and
hosting of two sites, including use of multiple email addresses.

> [1] Hosts: please save your breath - this is an exercise for the OP.

What does this mean in plain English? Who are the hosts that you're
referring to, and what do you mean by 'OP'?

Tony

> William Tasso o

Re: Web counter recommendations

Tony W. wrote:

> What do you mean, William? "Free" means that there is no expense.

No expense for now. It won't be free when you decide you need the $8.00 upgrade. > I'm paying about$48 U.S. per month for fast Internet connectivity
> and hosting of two sites, including use of multiple email addresses.

If you go for the $8.00 upgrade for your counter, consider the possibility that hosting, with stats included, could cost less than the$8.00 per month you would otherwise be spending on just your counter.

> What does this mean in plain English? Who are the hosts that you're
> referring to

Hosts who would be willing to sell you a complete hosting package for
less than $8.00 per month. > and what do you mean by 'OP'? Original poster. That's you. Re: Web counter recommendations Scott Bryce wrote: > > Tony W. wrote: > > > What do you mean, William? "Free" means that there is no expense. > > Please explicate. > > No expense for now. It won't be free when you decide you need the$8.00
>
> > I'm paying about $48 U.S. per month for fast Internet connectivity > > and hosting of two sites, including use of multiple email addresses. > > If you go for the$8.00 upgrade for your counter, consider the
> possibility that hosting, with stats included, could cost less than the
> $8.00 per month you would otherwise be spending on just your counter. > > > What does this mean in plain English? Who are the hosts that you're > > referring to > > Hosts who would be willing to sell you a complete hosting package for > less than$8.00 per month.

Would that inculde two hosting of two Web sites?

Are the services reliable? I'd rather pay more and avoid the headaches
that come with bungling ISPs. I've contracted with five ISPs over the
last nine years, and only my current one has been reliable. The others
were all very problematic, and some were atrocious. (Keep in mind,
though, that I've contracted ISPs since 1996, and in the late '90s the
ISPs and Internet were generally unreliable and the personnel were inept
because the industry was still fledgling.)

Tony

Re: Web counter recommendations

Tony W. wrote:
>
> Scott Bryce wrote:

>>Hosts who would be willing to sell you a complete hosting package for
>>less than \$8.00 per month.
>
>
> Would that inculde two hosting of two Web sites?

Yes.

http://page-zone.com /

There are other reliable hosts in the same price range, no doubt.

> Are the services reliable?

I have been with them for over 2 years, and had no problems.

Re: Web counter recommendations

Previously in alt.www.webmaster, "Tony W."

> Can someone please recommend a good, free Web counter that doesn't

You are visitor #<?php rand(1000,100000) ?>

(Hint: counters scream "I'm a n00b!", and don't mean anything anyway)

--
Mark Parnell
http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au

Re: Web counter recommendations

Mark Parnell wrote:
>
> Previously in alt.www.webmaster, "Tony W."
>
> > Can someone please recommend a good, free Web counter that doesn't
> > require links to the sponsor showing on my Web site?
>
> You are visitor #<?php rand(1000,100000) ?>
>
> (Hint: counters scream "I'm a n00b!", and don't mean anything anyway)
>
> --
> Mark Parnell
> http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au

Thanks, Mark.

What's a 'noob"?

Why are you so negative about counters, Mark?

I installed a counter this morning and I'm delighted! I've already had
10 hits in the first 10 hours! Wow!

It's meaningful because it demonstrates that people are viewing my site,
and that will motivate me to keep my site fresh and informative, to keep
the viewers coming back.

I wish I had gotten one to work earlier. On a few occasions over the
period of several years I spent several hours trying to get the damn
things to work, starting as long as seven, eight or nine years ago, but
I gave up every time because the damn things were so unreliable. But now
the technology has been improved; today I tried gostats.com and in less
than an hour the counter was ticking on my site and I can view a variety