OT? Upload/Download Speeds

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I'm using http://www.speedtest.net/index.php?nojs=1 to measure
up/downloading speeds.

On my daughter's PC (rural area, DSL), it's returning .24 Mbps
down and .83 up.

OTOH, on my PC (FIOS connection), it is returning 9.7/1.84.

Aside from the miserably slow download speed, it seems
counterintuitive that uploading sb faster than downloading.

Is the tool suspect?

My agenda is to get some numbers I can rely on, and then start
shopping for alternative services for the daughter.

Re: OT? Upload/Download Speeds

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:05:38 -0400, (PeteCresswell) put finger to keyboard
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No, the results are feasible for a rural connection. Because of the
asymmetric nature of ADSL the download speed will usually be as fast as the
link can support, while the upload speed is throttled at the exchange
rather than by the wire. So in rural areas the download speed will suffer
proportionately more than the upload speed. Add to that the fact that ADSL
is a contended service, and more people tend to be downloading (and hence
competing for download bandwidth) than uploading, and it's not at all
improbable that at peak times downloading will be slower than uploading. I
suspect that if you tried the test on her connection at a non-peak time
(eg, 6am), you'd find that the upload speed is still broadly the same but
the download speed is noticeably faster.

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Re: OT? Upload/Download Speeds

On 3/13/2011 5:05 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
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It is counter-intuitive - normally download is faster than upload.  But
depending on a lot of things such as server load, etc., it's possible.
The firs thing I would do is run the test multiple times at different
times of the day (and on different days).  It will vary, depending on
network load, etc.  It could be, for instance, when you ran the test a
bunch of people were downloading (i.e. getting web pages) but few uploading.

What are the specs for her link supposed to be? Is your test within
them?  For instance, if she's supposed to get 250K upload/download,
she's doing OK.  But if it's supposed to be 750K download, she isn't.

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Re: OT? Upload/Download Speeds

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:05:38 -0400, (PeteCresswell) wrote:

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You can get a second opinion using the tools at Measurement Lab:

http://www.measurementlab.net /

I'd suggest starting with the network diagnostic tool (Java required).
Warren Post
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Re: OT? Upload/Download Speeds

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Joe Average Consumer doesn't care as much about download speed as he
does upload speed.

3MB/768K down/up is typical for low-end DSL connections.

Even my ultra-fast FiOS connection isn't quite as fast out as it is in
(25MB down, 20MB up is what I'm paying for. I typically gt about 28-30MB
down, but only 17-18MB up.)

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What you need to look at, is what she's *paying for.* And go from

Steve Sobol - Programming/Web Dev/IT Support
Apple Valley, CA

Re: OT? Upload/Download Speeds

On 03/13/2011 02:05 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
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Mine shows 1.33 Mb/s down and 0.47 Mb/s up, for both test sites mentioned.

How repeatable are the results?

There may also be an issue regarding the physical line quality both
within the house and the distance between the house and the DSL exchange.

Is the same phone line used for voice as well? Maybe someone else in the
house was talking on the phone during the test.

James Moe
jmm-list at sohnen-moe dot com

Re: OT? Upload/Download Speeds

James Moe wrote:
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14.95 Mbps / 4.25 Mbps.  Atlanta, GA.

And I have NEVER seen real-world speeds like that, likely due to
throttling by servers.  Best I've ever seen (real world) is about 6 down
and 3.5 up.

Ed Mullen
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Re: OT? Upload/Download Speeds

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Go with cable, all my clients that have DSL have been very unhappy and
most have switched to cable.  I have Comcast Cable in a suburb of
Chicago and tested it just now:

21.94 Mbps down
3.66 Mbps up

This is common for me. Looking at my history, over the past year I have
never dropped below 14 Mbps down and 2 Mbps up.

Re: OT? Upload/Download Speeds

But is the OP even in the US?  I can't tell from his post's headers,
but I suspect not.  Certainly, this is not something that can be
assumed, as you unthinkingly seem to do.

Here in the UK, although things may have changed since they were taken
over by Virgin, the local cable company, NTL, were the worst I've ever
had to do business with, and definitely a case of "NEVER AGAIN!".

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:44:52 -0500, SAZ
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Re: OT? Upload/Download Speeds

SAZ wrote:
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I'm on Comcast cable.  Despite "tests" - which aren't real-world - what
does your browser report when you download something from, say, some
average Web site?

Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net /
If the odds are a million to one against something occurring, chances
are 50-50 it will.

Re: OT? Upload/Download Speeds

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I agree, using those test sites is a "best case" scenario, but still
worth a look from a comparison standpoint.  Compared to the OP, I'm
downloading, on average, 15 times faster.

Using NetStat live (available at AnalogX) which measures speed at the
computer's network adaptor, I typically download files (from Snapfiles,
iTunes, etc) at 400 - 700 KB/sec (bytes, not bits).  Files from major
sites like Microsoft will download at 2 - 3.0 MB/s (once again, bytes,
not bits).

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