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I'm redesigning a relatively high traffic website with a lot of long pages =
(message boards and classifieds).

The question is, what do you guys think of "sticky" headers*, like how Face=
book does their logo and top navigation?

Traditionally, I think that this type of feature would be considered annoyi=
ng, but I'm seeing it on more and more prominent sites. So is it still cons=
idered to be annoying (and all of these popular sites are making a mistake)=
, or have times changed (and it's time for smaller sites to get on board)?


* by "sticky" headers, I'm referring to how you scroll down on the page, bu=
t the top part of the site (logo, navigation, etc) stays in place. This giv=
es the appearance that it's in an old-school frame, with the top 50px in on=
e frame and the rest of the site in another frame.

Re: Design opinion

Jason C wrote:
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but I'm seeing it on more and more prominent sites. So is it still considered to
be annoying (and all of these popular sites are making a mistake), or have times
changed (and it's time for smaller sites to get on board)?
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the top part of the site (logo, navigation, etc) stays in place. This gives the
appearance that it's in an old-school frame, with the top 50px in one frame and
the rest of the site in another frame.
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I've used sticky header and footer on a few of the websites I created. I
created those in 2008-09, and my own site will get a redo soon, as I
think I should consider mobile devices now. My cited pages don't scale
very well in iPhone and others.

Examples:

http://galaxycamera.com (I created it, but they opted not to maintain it)

http://DarrellLarose.ca

Pros:

Keeps the menu bar and corporate identity visible at all times. They
both use a template.php file and use <?php include("template.php"); ?>
So I only have to edit the menu once for all pages. I think now one can
float the logo or use many other ways to clean up a page.



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Darrell Larose
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web:  http://DarrellLarose.ca
blog: http://DarrellLarose.wordpress.com
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Re: Design opinion

Jason C wrote:
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but I'm seeing it on more and more prominent sites. So is it still considered to
be annoying (and all of these popular sites are making a mistake), or have times
changed (and it's time for smaller sites to get on board)?
Quoted text here. Click to load it
the top part of the site (logo, navigation, etc) stays in place. This gives the
appearance that it's in an old-school frame, with the top 50px in one frame and
the rest of the site in another frame.
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I use it on three sites I maintain.  See my sig link.

Personally, I like a fixed header on a Web page.  And, as Darrell said,
it makes changing the header/menu a simple matter of editing one file
that is used by every page on the site.  Also, a simplified example of
the menu system on my site:

http://edmullen.net/menu_example.php

The header/menu is brought into each page via a PHP "include" statement ala:

<div id="doc_header">
<!-- start menu HTML import-->
<?php include("./styles/menu.txt"); ?>
<!-- END menu HTML import-->
</div>

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Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net /
If you must choose between two evils, pick the one you've never tried
before.



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