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- Degaging the structure of a site
May 14, 2007, 11:46 pm
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I'm a 20 years old student who just started a summer job to help a
Webmaster in an organization recreate their site (the old site is ugly
the process of learning XML technologies.
Now, unfortunately, I noticed that the job wont make me use those
skills of mine. The Webmaster there doesn't have a big technical
background and the foundation of the site is supposed to be done by an
other company. Our job will be to place the content of the old site in
this new foundation (and there's a lot of content!)
Now, the webmaster wants me to get the old site in a tree-like
structure in word, including every link to every page. They want to do
that to look at the tree at the end and decide what they keep and what
they trow and in what order it's presented. My question is : Is there
an easy way to create such a structure instead of copy/paste
everything and loosing my time with this. A software or something?
He also want me to copy all the text of those pages in some other
documents to paste the information in the new site when it's
available. I asked him why we don't just copy data from the old site
to the new site and he told me the old deprecated tags stay with the
code this way (like <font>, <center> ...). But they work with
dreamweaver and I'm sure this software as the ability to paste
information without any formating in the back. Correct me if I'm
My second preoccupation, since they still are in planning mode, I
wonder if I could make them consider an already built CMS like Drupal
or Joomla!. They want a shopping system, a member area, dynamic
content by the members and lots of those things that can be done with
Now, if I can convince them, I could be doing what I like
(implementing the CMS) and they would save money (no need for an extra
firm to make their site). The organization's webmaster is scared that
at the end of the summer he wont be able to maintain the site with
such an option (since I wont be there anymore). So, the way they want
to do their site is proceed with the external firm and find a
pluggable solution for the shopping section of the site. I think it's
a lot of work for nothing.
Can anyone give me some advice on how to possibly convince them about
the good of this solution?
Re: Degaging the structure of a site
I appreciate your pain. However, I can guarantee you a 20 yr old
college student hired for the summer will not be able to affect their
decisions. Their webmaster, no matter how good or bad he is, will speak
louder than anything you can say.
I know it's not fair. But that's the way the real world works.
Remove the "x" from my email address
JDS Computer Training Corp.
Re: Degaging the structure of a site
Sure. Google something up or write it, it's not that hard to do this
kind of recursive searching. First link I ran across:
This is not rocket science.
Filter it out. Look up regular expressions or use HTML Tidy. Or do what
he suggested and just copy the text from the webpage.
If you do this programatically you'll need to determine just where the
content starts. So much of a web page is navigation and eye candy and
you won't want that. Perhaps the content is already marked with
something like this:
<!-- Main Content starts here -->
If you have a site that has gone through a few changes then you may have
a whole mish mash and nothing consistant to key on. There really is
something to be said for copy and paste from a web page mess. Every case
is different though.
Well, do you know how to use any of these CMS's? You should convince
your webmaster how much easier it is to make sitewide changes. But
you'll need to know how to do this yourself before you can demonstrate
this. Actions speak louder than talk.
Seems like an outside firm would already know the benifit of CMS and
steer them that way. After all their job would be to set up a new look
and feel for the site and your job would be to stuff the content. Having
done a number of sites, it is alway the content that holds things up.
So, the way they want