# 500GB web space? well, yes and no...

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I have been shopping around for a new host for my 4 sites (with <2GB of
files total).  I came across www.ixwebhosting.com and saw that they offer
"500 GB Web Space" for $6.95/month. That's dramatically more than the 5GB my current host gives. Not to mention the 3.5TB of monthly throughput. Oh boy. I began to get visions of storing hard drive backups, mapped Z drives on my PCs, etc, etc, to make use of that 500GB. I gave them a call. The rep on the phone tells me that the 500GB must be used for "web-accessible" files only, that are part of my websites, and that I cannot use the space for stored files. So then, I could use the 500GB for thousands of pages of pictures of my cat, but can't use the space to park backup files? That just ain't right. Is it reasonable to advertise "500GB web space" without adding that little disclaimer? Or should I just know better? ## Re: 500GB web space? well, yes and no... 1. Buy an$8 domain name
5.  Sue the company for false advertising when they shut you down.

--Tina

## Re: 500GB web space? well, yes and no...

Take a look at www.servage.net
360GB with 3600GB monthly data transfer for 6,35Euro...
and you can use it as a storage...

And if you use coupon code "wanip" (without "), you get additional 25GB

biondo

## Re: 500GB web space? well, yes and no...

Biondo,

Yes, the Servage TOS seems to be good, in terms of storing files, vs, "web
accessible files".  There is no mention of the usage or purpose of the files
uploaded.  It does not specifically "and you can use it for storage" but it
doesn't say you can't...

Bandwidth and Disk Usage:
Customer agrees that bandwidth and disk usage shall not exceed the number of
megabytes per month for the Services ordered by Customer on the Order Form
and must be fairly distributed over the month. Customers are able to use 120
Gb daily totaling 3600 Gb in a normal 30 day month. A 28 day month provides
3360 Gb transfer and a 31 day month will allow a total of 3720 Gb transfer.
Sites that consume over our daily limit on a regular basis period will be
disabled and client must look into another Web hosting provider to
accommodate those high bandwidth needs. Servage will monitor Customer's
bandwidth and disk usage. Servage shall have the right to take corrective
action if Customer's bandwidth or disk usage exceeds the Agreed Usage. Such
corrective action may include the assessment of additional charges,
disconnection or discontinuance of any and all Services, or termination of
this Agreement, which actions may be taken is in Servage's sole and absolute
discretion. If Servage takes any corrective action under this section,
Customer shall not be entitled to a refund of any fees paid in advance prior
to such action. The default email inbox holds emails for up to 180 days,
sent 30 days and deleted (trash) 7 days. Email subfolders are not
automaticly cleaned up as this is the responsibility of the client.

## Re: 500GB web space? well, yes and no...

OK, I think I probably ought to give up on this.  Reviews about servage are
"mixed" at best...
http://www.webhostingjury.com/reviews/Servage

## Re: 500GB web space? well, yes and no...

When I was looking for web space, it seemed that every host had some
disgruntled reviews out there. I finally went with iPowerWeb because the
their ways in that time. I've had them for a year and have a couple of minor
complaints, but otherwise I'm happy with them.

## Re: 500GB web space? well, yes and no...

Sorry for not answering before, I was out for the weekend...

If you take a look at the Servage Webdrive option, you  can find a paragraph

Virtual Hard Disk
Use your Servage account for personal documents and files. You can access
your data from any Internet connected PC. No more need for USB keys, CDs and
Disks.

I'm using servage, and have no complain for them...

I have hosted 12 websites on one account and I use this account as a storage
for some of my data and as a backup for one website hosted on dedicated
servers from another company, the support response is fast enough and the
downtime is minimal

## Re: 500GB web space? well, yes and no...

That is not the problem, because it is unlikely you will need more than
120GB transfer/day. The problem is the very poor performance of their
servers. Emails from scripts get sent with up to a few hours of delays
and sometimes do not get sent at all. The performance of their server is
sluggish. I had a site with them for two years and in the end changed
hosts because of the poor performance of the Servage server.
--

Alfred Molon
http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe

## Re: 500GB web space? well, yes and no...

I think its quite common, and its probably there in their terms and
conditions. Basically by offering 500GB of web space they hope to be able to
grab your attention but they also expect most sites to be only a few MB.
After all, most sites are quite small its only once you get into file
sharing and backup that large data volumes typically are required as
standard - hence why they exclude you from that. In all probability they
couldn't support more than a few sites at 500GB.

Something else to be aware of is the 3.5TB monthly throughput. Some hosts
actually cap you on a daily basis, so they might actually cap you at 115GB
per day (which is still more than most of us would ever dream of using) and
they say 30x115GB/day=3.5TB/month. Of course it could also be that its
actually unmetered but the bandwidth is limited - although with these
numbers I think it works out at the equivalent of 10mbps upload - which
might if they are a small host be their total available bandwidth.

Its also worth looking at whether they have any "reasonable usage" clause.
It might be that you could fit inside all their other requirements but once
your site becomes busy they reserve the option to boot you down to
reasonable usage. This might for example be expressed in terms of cpu time.

BTW if you did fill up 500GB of space with pictures of your cat then you'd
probably find that:
1. You'd have to contact their support a few times because they ran out of
disk space before you reached the 500GB. (Been there!)
2. That it would take you an age - perhaps its me but it always seems to
take longer than an on-paper-calculation says it should to upload even 1GB
of files (say 1000 * 1MB files).
--
Brian Cryer
www.cryer.co.uk/brian

## Re: 500GB web space? well, yes and no...

Brian Cryer wrote:

ie. the extra bits that are sent to ensure your data arrives at the
server intact, nor do they factor in the extra communications performed
at the start and end of each file being uploaded.

All-in-all, these things will add a lot more data communications than
you would have anticipated ;)

--
Dylan Parry
http://electricfreedom.org | http://webpageworkshop.co.uk

The opinions stated above are not necessarily representative of
those of my cats. All opinions expressed are entirely your own.

## Re: 500GB web space? well, yes and no...

Dylan Parry wrote:

Nor do they figure the delays in ACKing individual packets.

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Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
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## Re: 500GB web space? well, yes and no...

Brian, you got it right.  The ixwebhosting TOS has a "fair use" clause which
to me says "we were just kidding" when it comes to their webspace and
throughput promises.  In my opinion the come-on is pretty deceptive...

http://www.ixwebhosting.com/index.php/v2/pages.tos#q4

Steve wrote:

you mean it wasn't the 500gig drive you were getting for $6 that gave you a clue? ## Re: 500GB web space? well, yes and no... Of course it sounds too good to be true, and it was. That's why I called them on the phone. They DID say "500GB for$6.95 a month" on the top page
of their website, after all.  I suspect that as time goes on, as more people
have more of a need to back up "big stuff" - 4GB movies and such - and
attempt to take advantage of 500GB come-ons like IXwebhosting's, those
offers will disapear, or at least become clearer, without having to dig
through the TOS.

Drives are cheap.  I make use of big drives at home.  The reason I want the
500GB online is for offsite backup, to protect against losing files in a
disaster.  I suppose I could burn DVDs and put them in a fireproof safe, or
mail them to my Mom, or bury them in the back yard, or get a safe deposit
box, or whatever.

## Re: 500GB web space? well, yes and no...

Per Steve:

When I dabbled in offsite backup via broadband (Fios - *maybe*
4mb/sec...) for my 60-70 gigs of data, I found data transfer
rates tb the limiting factor.   My little pipeline just wasn't
enough to do the first backup - or, I suspect, even incrementals
in any reasonable amount of clock time.
--
PeteCresswell

## Re: 500GB web space? well, yes and no...

If you want it for a backup then I'd suggest buying three (500GB+) USB disks
instead. Keep one at home and backup to it and the other two off site (I
keep mine in my desk draw at work), then once a week cycle your home disk
off site and one of the offsite ones back home. This works a treat for me -
I use it to backup my home server and the same idea to backup the servers at
work. If you can automate the backup then that's even better - although
sadly I've yet to find a way of automating the carrying off site (grin).
--
Brian Cryer
www.cryer.co.uk/brian

## Re: 500GB web space? well, yes and no...

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## Re: 500GB web space? well, yes and no...

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Sadly they don't go up to 500GB. That said I don't need 500GB - at home I
use about 150GB and for work about 400GB. I did experiment with on-line
backup but found it too slow to be practical given the amount of data to be
backed up, so for now I'm sticking with USB disks.
--
Brian Cryer
www.cryer.co.uk/brian

## Re: 500GB web space? well, yes and no...

i uase blue host and they seem to be good. i did use powweb but they sucked.

## Re: 500GB web space? well, yes and no...

Likewise, I use bluehost.com - after seeing recommendations here and have
been quite happy with them.

In the context of the OP's post, bluehost "only" offer 300GB of storage. I
think their Ts&Cs contain a comment about the amount/proportion of cpu time
that a site may use, likewise about files being for web rather than backup
etc. So all the comments about large amounts of web space that have been
made to the OP's post are probably all valid.
--
Brian Cryer
www.cryer.co.uk/brian