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user cannot access shares Leo 10-21-2005
Posted by Leo on October 21, 2005, 12:30 pm
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 Hello

I have a Windows 2003 server with a few shares.

I have added my account (which is a domain account), to use this shares with
Full permissions (read/write/...)

Now when I access these shares from my PC, I can read, but if I try to write
to the folders in them, it says 'Access Denied', abd that I have no
permissions to write to these shares

I had the sysadmin look at it, but he's clueless as to why this is
happening. When I log in to this Windows server with remote desktop, and
login with the same domain account that I use for my PC and click my way
through to these shares, I can actually write to them, but tryint to do a
\computer\share\folder and then create a file in that folder it will still
say Access denied. Has anyone any idea as to why this is happening?



Regards,

Leo




Posted by Paul Adare on October 21, 2005, 12:48 pm
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 says...

> I had the sysadmin look at it, but he's clueless as to why this is
> happening. When I log in to this Windows server with remote desktop, and
> login with the same domain account that I use for my PC and click my way
> through to these shares, I can actually write to them, but tryint to do a
> \computer\share\folder and then create a file in that folder it will still
> say Access denied. Has anyone any idea as to why this is happening?
>

When you use remote desktop into the server, what does "click my way
through to these shares" mean? I'm going to assume that you're access
them through Explorer locally rather than using \computer\share\folder
in the RDP session correct?
If so, the answer is easy. You've modified the NTFS permissions but the
share permissions are still read only.
BTW - I'd fire your sysadmin and get another if he's unable to figure
this out.

--
Paul Adare
MVP - Windows - Virtual Machine
http://www.identit.ca/blogs/paul/
"The English language, complete with irony, satire, and sarcasm, has
survived for centuries without smileys. Only the new crop of modern
computer geeks finds it impossible to detect a joke that is not clearly
labeled as such."
Ray Shea


Posted by Leo on October 21, 2005, 3:36 pm
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Tahnks for your answer. Since I wasn't allowed to "mess around with the
share" I thought that was taken care of, so I didn't even ask

However your firing suggestion? Well it's admins like that that give Windows
a bad name. I work in a UNIX dominated place, and every little issue with
Windows is looked at with a lot of interest. I have told these guys forever
that we have flawed admins, and that it's not the Windows gfault....so I
passed your suggestion to him

thanks

Leo


> says...
>
> > I had the sysadmin look at it, but he's clueless as to why this is
> > happening. When I log in to this Windows server with remote desktop, and
> > login with the same domain account that I use for my PC and click my way
> > through to these shares, I can actually write to them, but tryint to do
a
> > \computer\share\folder and then create a file in that folder it will
still
> > say Access denied. Has anyone any idea as to why this is happening?
> >
>
> When you use remote desktop into the server, what does "click my way
> through to these shares" mean? I'm going to assume that you're access
> them through Explorer locally rather than using \computer\share\folder
> in the RDP session correct?
> If so, the answer is easy. You've modified the NTFS permissions but the
> share permissions are still read only.
> BTW - I'd fire your sysadmin and get another if he's unable to figure
> this out.
>
> --
> Paul Adare
> MVP - Windows - Virtual Machine
> http://www.identit.ca/blogs/paul/
> "The English language, complete with irony, satire, and sarcasm, has
> survived for centuries without smileys. Only the new crop of modern
> computer geeks finds it impossible to detect a joke that is not clearly
> labeled as such."
> Ray Shea




Posted by Larry Smith on October 24, 2005, 1:40 pm
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> When you use remote desktop into the server, what does "click my way
> through to these shares" mean? I'm going to assume that you're access
> them through Explorer locally rather than using \computer\share\folder
> in the RDP session correct?
> If so, the answer is easy. You've modified the NTFS permissions but the
> share permissions are still read only.
> BTW - I'd fire your sysadmin and get another if he's unable to figure
> this out.

Come on. If all the people that were incompetent in this field were to be
fired there'd be few people left (well, may not be a bad idea actually).
Does this particular issue qualify as incompetent however? LAN Manager
sessions (SMB) and Windows authentication in general are very poorly
documented (and frequently complicated). An "access denied" error is one of
the most frequently encountered problems and few people really know how to
deal with it.

>
> --
> Paul Adare
> MVP - Windows - Virtual Machine
> http://www.identit.ca/blogs/paul/
> "The English language, complete with irony, satire, and sarcasm, has
> survived for centuries without smileys. Only the new crop of modern
> computer geeks finds it impossible to detect a joke that is not clearly
> labeled as such."
> Ray Shea




Posted by Roger Abell [MVP] on October 24, 2005, 11:01 pm
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On another hand, that particular "issue" of share vs filesystem
permissions is and has been fundemental for so long, it may not
even be mentioned in the cert exams any more, dropped (?) when
there was interest in putting some teeth/meaning into them.

--
Roger

>> When you use remote desktop into the server, what does "click my way
>> through to these shares" mean? I'm going to assume that you're access
>> them through Explorer locally rather than using \computer\share\folder
>> in the RDP session correct?
>> If so, the answer is easy. You've modified the NTFS permissions but the
>> share permissions are still read only.
>> BTW - I'd fire your sysadmin and get another if he's unable to figure
>> this out.
>
> Come on. If all the people that were incompetent in this field were to be
> fired there'd be few people left (well, may not be a bad idea actually).
> Does this particular issue qualify as incompetent however? LAN Manager
> sessions (SMB) and Windows authentication in general are very poorly
> documented (and frequently complicated). An "access denied" error is one
> of the most frequently encountered problems and few people really know how
> to deal with it.
>
>>
>> --
>> Paul Adare
>> MVP - Windows - Virtual Machine
>> http://www.identit.ca/blogs/paul/
>> "The English language, complete with irony, satire, and sarcasm, has
>> survived for centuries without smileys. Only the new crop of modern
>> computer geeks finds it impossible to detect a joke that is not clearly
>> labeled as such."
>> Ray Shea
>
>




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