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two CA certificates for IPSec or something... Ondrej Sevecek 09-17-2005
Posted by Ondrej Sevecek on September 17, 2005, 3:58 pm
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is it possible to have more then one CA signing certificate on one
enterprise CA?

Or how to achieve this: to have two separate groups of computers using IPSec
where one group enrolls automatically, the other manually or with approval.
This should allow for restrictive and less restrictive IPSec filter rule
sets on a server.

O.




Posted by Brian Komar [MVP] on September 17, 2005, 9:41 am
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Answers inline:
<ondra at my_surname dot com> says...
> is it possible to have more then one CA signing certificate on one
> enterprise CA?
No, the Microsoft CA will have a single, valid signing certificate for
the issuance of new certificates. It is possible that after the renewal
of a CA certificate, that two or more CA certificates will exist and me
time valid, but only the active certificate is used to sign new
requests. The previous certificates will be used to sign CRLs associated
with that certificate.

>
> Or how to achieve this: to have two separate groups of computers using IPSec
> where one group enrolls automatically, the other manually or with approval.
> This should allow for restrictive and less restrictive IPSec filter rule
> sets on a server.
>

You could use two certificate templates to accomplish this, but if you
are applying different IPSec filters, the authentication can only
indicate *which* root CA the chain is rooted.

> O.
>
>
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Posted by Ondrej Sevecek on September 17, 2005, 5:38 pm
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> You could use two certificate templates to accomplish this, but if you
> are applying different IPSec filters, the authentication can only
> indicate *which* root CA the chain is rooted.

..... and when I would use two templates, how to distinguish them in the
filter rules?


O.





Posted by Brian Komar [MVP] on September 17, 2005, 4:44 pm
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<ondra at my_surname dot com> says...
> > You could use two certificate templates to accomplish this, but if you
> > are applying different IPSec filters, the authentication can only
> > indicate *which* root CA the chain is rooted.
>
> .... and when I would use two templates, how to distinguish them in the
> filter rules?
>
>
> O.
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>
>
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This is the issue, the certificate templates would still chain to CAs
that chain to the same root.
Is there any other criteria that you could use, other than the
authentication to isolate?
Brian


Posted by Ondrej Sevecek on September 18, 2005, 10:57 am
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I cannot imagine one. I would like the isolation to occure on another bases
than IP, so I think, the authentication is the only solution.
Installation of subordinate CA would require strict security on the machine,
so we probably will install standalone subordinate on a separate server that
will be used to only this purpose.

O.


> <ondra at my_surname dot com> says...
>> > You could use two certificate templates to accomplish this, but if you
>> > are applying different IPSec filters, the authentication can only
>> > indicate *which* root CA the chain is rooted.
>>
>> .... and when I would use two templates, how to distinguish them in the
>> filter rules?
>>
>>
>> O.
>>
>>
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> This is the issue, the certificate templates would still chain to CAs
> that chain to the same root.
> Is there any other criteria that you could use, other than the
> authentication to isolate?
> Brian




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