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stop laptop suspending when battery gets low Andy Fish 10-02-2007
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Posted by Andy Fish on October 2, 2007, 12:02 pm
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Hi,

I have a sony TR5 laptop which is about 3 years old now. Although the
battery will last a good 2 hours, the battery meter drops to 0% after about
1/2 that time.

That's not a problem in itself - I've seen it on other laptops before. I
simply went on to the "alarms" section of the power control panel and made
sure that it didn't hibernate when the battery level goes below 3%. I have
to suffer the occasional unexpected shutdown when the battery actually runs
out but I can live with that.

That was fine until I reinstalled windows XP and now the PC always
hibernates when it thinks the battery is low i.e. after an hour, regardless
of how I configure the low battery alarms.

is there something else that is taking priority over these settings. It's a
PITA only being able to use 1/2 the battery life of the laptop.

TIA

Andy



Posted by David Webb on October 2, 2007, 12:50 pm
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Check your owner's manual to see if there's a calibration procedure required
when you install a new battery. If so, try it using your existing battery.

Good luck!

| Hi,
|
| I have a sony TR5 laptop which is about 3 years old now. Although the
| battery will last a good 2 hours, the battery meter drops to 0% after about
| 1/2 that time.
|
| That's not a problem in itself - I've seen it on other laptops before. I
| simply went on to the "alarms" section of the power control panel and made
| sure that it didn't hibernate when the battery level goes below 3%. I have
| to suffer the occasional unexpected shutdown when the battery actually runs
| out but I can live with that.
|
| That was fine until I reinstalled windows XP and now the PC always
| hibernates when it thinks the battery is low i.e. after an hour, regardless
| of how I configure the low battery alarms.
|
| is there something else that is taking priority over these settings. It's a
| PITA only being able to use 1/2 the battery life of the laptop.
|
| TIA
|
| Andy
|
|



Posted by mike on October 2, 2007, 12:54 pm
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Andy Fish wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a sony TR5 laptop which is about 3 years old now. Although the
> battery will last a good 2 hours, the battery meter drops to 0% after about
> 1/2 that time.
>
> That's not a problem in itself - I've seen it on other laptops before. I
> simply went on to the "alarms" section of the power control panel and made
> sure that it didn't hibernate when the battery level goes below 3%. I have
> to suffer the occasional unexpected shutdown when the battery actually runs
> out but I can live with that.
>
> That was fine until I reinstalled windows XP and now the PC always
> hibernates when it thinks the battery is low i.e. after an hour, regardless
> of how I configure the low battery alarms.
>
> is there something else that is taking priority over these settings. It's a
> PITA only being able to use 1/2 the battery life of the laptop.
>
> TIA
>
> Andy
>
>
Did you save the drivers for the laptop before you reloaded it?
Did you visit the vendor site for sw updates? Driverguide.com?
It's not unusual for the vendor (Sony) to overlay a separate power
management utility.

FWIW, the failure mode of LiION batteries is increased series resistance.
The electrons are in there, but the laptop won't let you have them
because it thinks the voltage is low (due to series resistance under
load). So, your battery is "bad". Yes, the vendors could design around
that issue, but then they'd make less money. Some clever dude could
make a fortune with a battery utility that was aware of this problem...
at least until the bankruptcy due to the first lawsuit
they got caught up in through no fault of their own.

mike
mike

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Posted by PA Bear on October 2, 2007, 3:53 pm
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How old is the battery? How long have you been using it? Was it
remanufactured/recycled battery or a brand new one? Did you purchase it
from Toshiba? Do you leave the battery in the bay even when running on AC
power? Do you store the battery at 100% charge?

Why did you find it necessary or choose to reinstall Windows? Did you do a
Repair Install or format & reinstall? Is the machine fully patched at
Windows Update? Are there driver and/or BIOS updates available from the
computer manufacturer's website that you've not install yet?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear), working offline
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.org/

Andy Fish wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a sony TR5 laptop which is about 3 years old now. Although the
> battery will last a good 2 hours, the battery meter drops to 0% after
> about
> 1/2 that time.
>
> That's not a problem in itself - I've seen it on other laptops before. I
> simply went on to the "alarms" section of the power control panel and made
> sure that it didn't hibernate when the battery level goes below 3%. I have
> to suffer the occasional unexpected shutdown when the battery actually
> runs
> out but I can live with that.
>
> That was fine until I reinstalled windows XP and now the PC always
> hibernates when it thinks the battery is low i.e. after an hour,
> regardless
> of how I configure the low battery alarms.
>
> is there something else that is taking priority over these settings. It's
> a
> PITA only being able to use 1/2 the battery life of the laptop.
>
> TIA
>
> Andy


Posted by Andy Fish on October 3, 2007, 4:13 am
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thanks for all the responses (and thanks to mike for the explanation)

basically I reinstalled because it just seemed to be full of crap and I
wanted to clean it out - it runs much faster now so that part of it was a
success. Because the dvd drive is broken I could not use the sony recovery
DVD so I had to install vanilla windows xp.

I reinstalled all the sony drivers and also the sony specific power
management, and I've checked on their web site and there are no more
updates. I've also done all the windows updates

the battery is the original battery that came with the laptop and there
aren't instructions on how to recalibrate. I don't particularly want to
replace the battery because I know it's good for 2 hours which is fine for
me - it's just a PITA not being able to use the last hour of it

Andy

> How old is the battery? How long have you been using it? Was it
> remanufactured/recycled battery or a brand new one? Did you purchase it
> from Toshiba? Do you leave the battery in the bay even when running on AC
> power? Do you store the battery at 100% charge?
>
> Why did you find it necessary or choose to reinstall Windows? Did you do
> a Repair Install or format & reinstall? Is the machine fully patched at
> Windows Update? Are there driver and/or BIOS updates available from the
> computer manufacturer's website that you've not install yet?
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear), working offline
> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.org/
>
> Andy Fish wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a sony TR5 laptop which is about 3 years old now. Although the
>> battery will last a good 2 hours, the battery meter drops to 0% after
>> about
>> 1/2 that time.
>>
>> That's not a problem in itself - I've seen it on other laptops before. I
>> simply went on to the "alarms" section of the power control panel and
>> made
>> sure that it didn't hibernate when the battery level goes below 3%. I
>> have
>> to suffer the occasional unexpected shutdown when the battery actually
>> runs
>> out but I can live with that.
>>
>> That was fine until I reinstalled windows XP and now the PC always
>> hibernates when it thinks the battery is low i.e. after an hour,
>> regardless
>> of how I configure the low battery alarms.
>>
>> is there something else that is taking priority over these settings. It's
>> a
>> PITA only being able to use 1/2 the battery life of the laptop.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Andy
>



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