Identy Theft?

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Lexux-Nexus lost 300,000 identities to thieves? This is UNACCEPTABLE!  The
fact that they have all this information is identity theft in itself. I did
not give them permission to have my data.
As a matter of fact I didn't give Equafix or Transunion permission to have
my fincancial data.
A new law should be passed that ANYBODY that has personal data of other
people MUST have permission for such from each.
All current private data must be deleted NOW!

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In the old country, the Gendarmes or the KGB kept extensive files on
their citizens.  Much of it was innocuous (birthdays, living at a
certain address, etc.), but they could dig up the dirt on someone when
they needed to.

It is interesting that the USA leaves this function to private
companies with little regulation.  It will always be so because the
major credit card companies have power, lobbyists, and political
influence.  They just recently trashed the bankruptcy laws.

 Your "credit file" , errors and all, is your test of worthiness for a
mortgage, loans, and many jobs, things that are necessities in today's
world.  There is very little incentive for the big 3 credit reporting
companies to "get it right the first time".


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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:24:54 GMT, not_real@xxx.yyy (Beachcomber)

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It's left to private firms as a "work around" to any restrictions that
may apply to the government themselves.

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Nog wrote:
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That might be a bit extreme however they have that data because they are
  legally allowed to collect it.  I saw that article at PC world, yes,
it is unacceptable.

What is more interesting is many types of information is being collected
(by other entities) from legal and somewhat shady data collection
methods that law enforcement could not collect directly collect legally,
that can/is purchased by law enforcement entities legally.

If you have ever taken a loan, bought a car, got a credit card, signed a
phone contract, and a number of other financial or legal instruments you
probably have given the company the right to collect the data and
provide to other entities. Even some ISP contracts have some interesting

In the US, there is little "right" to privacy, and under the privacy
protection act of 74 there are minor penalties even for the government
to breech private information, and the government has one of the highest
privacy bars.

The United States Supreme Court has stated that American citizens have
the protection of the Fourth Amendment (freedom from search and seizure
without a warrant) when there is a reasonable expectation of privacy.

The United States Supreme Court has stated that American citizens have
the protection of the Fourth Amendment (freedom from search and seizure
absent warrant) when there is a reasonable expectation of privacy,
Without a reasonable expectation of privacy, however, there is no
privacy right to protect.

There are legitimate reasons certain data needs to be collected by
entities protecting their fiduciary interests however we do need some
privacy protection laws that provide at least a modicum of privacy and
recourse when the trust is violated.  Our European friends are far ahead
of the US in this arena.

I suspect it would surprise many people if they knew their medical
records were transcribed to a computer outside of US borders and laws.

Yes, the US is in need of some privacy laws however we can not achieve
the level of protection you suggest.  Should our address be private?
Your name? How about a phone book. Taxes you pay? Public record. Aerial
photographs of your property? Your photograph? Public record in numerous
locations (not just drivers license. The line between what should be
private and what is not is a tough line to draw.

Technology is making this issue even greater.  You use that discount
card for store purchases?  You can bet that store has recorded who you
are and what you bought.  Credit card use?  What, when and where has
been recorded.  Web server access? No expectation of privacy.

I wish I knew the right answer.  I do know the US population believes
they have more right to privacy than the constitution and law provide.


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I don't think it would take a great deal of legislation in order to legalize
invasion  their premesses with swat teams and confiscate their computers and
destroy them. You just have to take charge of people abusing the system for
financial gain without consideration or permission of the individual. You
can lay back and say there is nothing we can do or you can actually do
something through your elected representative.

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Under what constitutional or legal grounds do you propose this?

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Not a problem.  YOU have only to pay cash for everything (because no one
is going to grant you credit without some good credit history), and not
own any major property (cars, houses) or get convicted of a crime, because
all that gets into public records that are required by law to be accessible
to some limited extent by everyone.  Oh, and you don't even need a
telephone - you can get those prepaid phone cards, and use the payphone
down at the... where is the nearest payphone in Augusta?

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I notice you aren't using the 'X-No-Archive:' header on your post, so it's
obviously OK for google to "make money" off of your post. Have you done a
search at google for your name, and the city you live in? You might be

A more likely technique would be to require a written approval for every
_release_ of personal data. This would vastly increase the cost of getting
(for example) credit approval (the credit reporting companies now make a
lot of their money by selling your data to anyone who asks - but then I
guess you're to young to have enough credit history to be receiving those
offers of credit cards, insurance policies, and all the rest).

        Old guy

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