Get Ready: The fight for control of the Internet is coming

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EU Wants Shared Control of Internet

"BRUSSELS, Belgium - The
European Union insisted Friday that governments and the private sector must
share the responsibility of overseeing the Internet, setting the stage for
a showdown with the United States on the future of Internet governance."
"A senior U.S. official reiterated Thursday that the country wants to remain
the Internet's ultimate authority, rejecting calls in a
United Nations meeting in Geneva for a U.N. body to take over."

"EU spokesman Martin Selmayr said a new cooperation model was important
because the Internet is a global resource."

"The EU ... is very firm on this position, he added."

Another article I posted a couple of days ago illustrated how the US Gov is
maneuvering to control the software that consumers *can* have on their pc.
Motivated by "security' needs (being pushed by the US "intelligence"
agency) and copyright issues (being pushed Music/Movie industry and

Personally, I agree with the EU stance that it should only be governed (In
my opinion, minimally governed) by the UN. After all, the Internet is not
any one country but a Global entity. I guess we will see a showdown very,
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There are precedents with the ITU the Postal Union, IATA,  IMO all of
which seem to do a good job and restrict themselves to making
things work rather than favouring a particular Govenrments interests.

Of course they are not faith based  ...
Jim Watt 

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I sure hope the rest of the World sticks to their guns on this. The Internet
should not be run, or regulated by any country. It should only be managed
by the UN (Domain Name Registration etc) and not overly regulated
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Honestly, this is not the real problem. I know the European media seems to
over "paint" this picture a lot. The real problem here, in the US, is that
corporations are out of control. It is the big US corporations that really
control the US policy. Ask yourself this. We already had copyright
protection long before the DMA covering everything including Digital Media.
So, why did DMA pass? After all it was redundant. It was passed because it
was pushed in by US corporations (notably the Entertainment Industry and
Microsoft). To see how influential the US corporations are, ask yourself
this, how many countries now have their very own DMA law? Every DMA law in
every country is a direct result of the US corporations (Entertainment
Industry and Microsoft) here. Scary.

Now, I am sure you realize how much I can not stand M$. Some people here
even think that it is because I am a Linux/BSD guy. This is not the reason.
I can not stand M$ because they represent the F'd up political system here
powered (and controlled) by Nazi like US coporations....

Unfortunately most Americans walk around in a zombie like trace. They are
totally oblivious to the World state of affairs beyond what they watch on
TV (Fox news, CNN and MSNBC). By the way, the US media is the very worse
"source" of news you could possible see. I know that you live in the UK and
a lot of people here are in foreign countries but, the next time you visit
the US try watching the "news". It is down right pathetic. However, people
here are too busy being a zombie to investigate anything. As such, US
corporations get away with more and more.

Maybe some day we will have true represention in the US congress. True
politicians that really understand the beginning of the US Constitution "We
the people of the Untied States..." But then again, maybe the US
Corporations will rewrite that to "We the Corporations of the United
States"...only time will tell...

So, to summarize, it is not overly zealous religious fanatics that are f'n
up the US policy, it is nothing more than out-of-control greedy US

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Anyway I have ranted enough for today,

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Passports, passports...get your Internet passports here

Are you going to be in charge of the Gibraltar ones, Jim? Can I put my
name down for one now? ;)

Seriously, is that how it is going, or is the general populace finally
going to say `enough - enough of corporate corruption and greed'?


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Only issued to residents ... and the significantly rich.

HOWEVER as it happens I put mine in for renewal last week as
machine readable passports are good for the visa waiver program
when visiting the US providing they are issued before the end of
October, after which one will need a biometic one, the sort that
needs chips and which nobody quite knows about yet.

Of course Its a security thing, or so they say.

For those with a UK passport that is not machine readable - ie has
some scruffy printed codes in << >> delimiters, act NOW and change
it or expect to be screwed.

The discussion on UK identity cards rolls on, interestingly enough
we have cards, they are issued free and there is no legal requirement
to carry one.  As such they are a useful and can be used instead of a
passport across the EU.  The UK scheme is a totally different animal.

They have tightened up on whats acceptable as a passport photo, and
although computer printed ones are OK its got to be full face on at a
particular size 'or else' and 1200dpi

Internet licence next ?
Jim Watt 

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