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I've searched this group, but haven't found an answer for exactly what
I'm trying to figure out.

I have a website for my home business, that is ranked between #2 and #7
on Yahoo's 1st page (depending on if you enter the singular or plural
version of the keyword phrase), Altavista, and MSN....but these
rankings are mainly for one keyword phrase.  I've been reading a lot
about Search Engine Optimization, and decided to overhall my website.
I decided to change my domain name, including keywords in it, to help
even more with my search engine rankings.  I don't want to forward my
new domain to my website, I want it to be the actual domain for my
website, and forward the old domain to it.

I called my hosting company (godaddy), to see if they could just change
the domain name, and they said they couldn't, that I'd have to set up a
new hosting account, and delete the old one.

Ok....so which way would be best so that I don't hurt my search engine
rankings on Yahoo, Altavista and MSN?   Should I leave my old website
and old domain in place for a couple months until I see my new site and
new domain name hign in the rankings? (will having two almost identical
sites hurt me or get me blacklisted from these search engines)
Or....should I just point my old domain name, to my new site?  Would
the search engine bots follow the link from my old domain to my new
site, and then update the search engine listing?  Am I just going to
end up having to start from scratch with my search engine rankings?
OR....should I just leave well enough alone and keep my old domain name
and just work on editing my original website?

Google illudes me.  My site is no where to be found in Google, although
Google does know about it... only 1/10 ranking though. Is the ONLY way
to get listed in Google through links?   I have a different website
that has excellent placing in almost every search engine, and it is
listed in DMOZ,  but couldn't get that one into Google either....until
I placed a paid listing on a popular website which has a google rating
of 6/10, and THAT listing of mine shows up high in Google....but not my
own site that is linked from my listing.

SEO sure is a Science!!!

Thanks so much!

Re: Which way is better to change my domain name so it doesn't affectmy search engine rankings?

pm3009@yahoo.com wrote:
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My recommendation is to use a 301 Redirect on your old domain to point
it to your new domain.

For more information, please refer to:

How do I create a 301 redirect?


Re: Which way is better to change my domain name so it doesn't affect my search engine rankings?

HI Will

I called GoDaddy to see if I could do a 301 redirect, and they said
that their servers don't support that.   Below is the email godaddy
sent me to do as an alternative, which I don't really understand.

I did go to the link that you included Will, from your link, I went to
http://www.seoconsultants.com/tips/asp/301.asp which tells you how do
301 redirect without involving an administrator.  Would this work if
Godaddy says their servers don't support 301 redirects?

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We recently enabled outgoing http and https connections for our web
hosting customers. These connections will take place via a proxy
server, which will be completely transparent for customers making only
http (port 80) connections. Applications that need to make https
connections (port 443) will need to be made 'proxy aware". This will
require additional coding to varying degrees, depending on the
application. These customers will need to know the ip address and port
of the proxy server in order to correctly modify their code. The ip of
the proxy server is and connections will be made on port

Customers using cURL with PHP will need to include the following lines
on each script that utilizes cURL functions.

curl_setopt ($ch, CURLOPT_PROXY, );


Will Spencer wrote:
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Re: Which way is better to change my domain name so it doesn't affectmy search engine rankings?

pm3009 wrote:
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I do not know how GoDaddy works (or, apparently, doesn't work...)

Who is your domain registrar?  Can you not transfer your domain away
from GoDaddy and host it with a more technically competent hosting facility?


Re: Which way is better to change my domain name so it doesn't affect my search engine rankings?

On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 14:41:21 -0700, Will Spencer

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I don't know whether this is worth mentioning, but I have regular
newsletters from folk who follow site advancement practices  - not
really what you'd call seo - some might question. I think it's fair to
say that GoDaddy used to be the hosting service of choice. Lately
though that's all changed. No-one's said anything overt, but I notice
GD doesn't seem to get mentioned anymore.

www.kruse.co.uk/ seo@kruse.demon.co.uk
         The buffalo have gone

Re: Which way is better to change my domain name so it doesn't affect my search engine rankings?

__/ [pm3009@yahoo.com] on Wednesday 09 November 2005 08:17 \__

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The  name of your domain (or "domain name") is inevitably the icon of your
site.  All links and all bookmarks in people's browsers (or Web  services)
bear  that name. Migration of sites can be difficult, even when done prop-
erly using permanent re-directions. You might have to request some Webmas-
ter  for modification of links, so it can be highly time-consuming and un-

GoDaddy  may have said something misleading. You don't have to delete your
old domain name. It can continue to exist in tandem, at least for a period
of  time.  To avoid penalties, you will have to redirect  pages  properly.
Follow the technical details carefully. You must inform the search engines
(spiders)  that one site is deprecated and it is only you who created  the
content, i.e. no mirrors. Re-directions implicitly do that.

As  regards  ranks, you may struggle to retain the same ranks for the  new
site.  As you re-direct from the existing sites, its rank will drop  while
the  new  site will not gain momentum quite as quickly as you would  hope.
The  PageRank  might not be preserved either. Unless the domain name  that
you  already have is appalling, I suggest that you stick to it and come to
accept  it  as a name that is here to stay. If you rely on few  backlinks,
however  or  still have low PageRank, it's a good opportunity to  migrate,
before it's too late.

Hope it helps,


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Re: Which way is better to change my domain name so it doesn't affect my search engine rankings?

Thanks for your response Roy.  Sorry if my note was confusing, I didn't
ask Godaddy if I could delete my old domain name, I am going to keep it
and just forward it to the new host/domain name. What they said was,
they couldn't keep my existing hosting account and assign my new domain
name to it.  Said I'd have to create a new hosting account with the new
domain name, then delete my old hosting account (but again...still
keeping my old domain name).


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