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Hi there again,

Maybe it is slightly off-topic, but it surely has some impact on SEO too :)
This is about processing forms.

I am posting to this group, as I find you guys here the most reliable,
informative and helpful :)
I am sure you are familiar and experts in processing forms too.
Presume John Bokma is for sure, as he's into Perl.

Well, I have been trying to use some scripts but nothing seems to work.
I have been through tutorials, other newsgroups, archives and all.
I cannot make work either a form created in Dreamweaver, or form downloaded
with the script.

Here are my questions:

1) How do I make a form in Dreamweaver work? When I create one on the
contact page, what data do I have to attach to it to make it processable?

2) When using ready-made scripts, they should be placed in the root folder,
where the form is, but how do I coordinate them?

I know it needs to be uploaded and so on, and I have done so, but it ain't
working at all. Error pages display or a messages like 'your page
'contact.html' does not allow POST data'.

3) I have been considering Coldfusion after all above problems, but again,
can create beautiful forms with it, but how do I make them work?

I am fed up and about to give up, been trying with these forms for 24h now

Could you give me step-by-step advice, as if you were explainig to a
complete moron? It is how I feel right now, form-wise of course :)

So, I have three ways to follow:

1) use dreamweaver form
2) use ready-made form
3) try with coldfusion

Which is best? The easiest?

Oh, one thing - I know how to use 'mailto:.........' option, but want to
leave it as it is unprofessional and not very safe.

Below you can find info that 1&1 provide on CGI scripts.

If you could hepl, it would be great.


"What are the options for programming CGI scripts?

In our Premium*, DIY*, Business and Professionals Packages we offer the
option to execute your own CGI scripts. You have the choice between the
script languages Perl, Python and PHP (Versions 3 and 4). PHP was especially
designed for developing web applications. Documentation for Perl can be
found under; a complete and very well written tutorial for PHP
exists under

Freely distributed and easily configurable scripts are available under the
following URLs: /

Please note
By default Perl scripts will only be executed if their file extension is
.cgi. or .pl and the first line of the script starts with #!/usr/bin/perl.

Please note
Perl scripts must be transferred in ASCII mode and the execution rights must
be set as follows: User:read, write, execute Group:read, execute
Others/World:read, execute (which is evaluated numerically to 755).

More settings:

      Document Root (the absolute path to your web): $ENV
      File extension for Perl scripts: .cgi> or .pl
      File extension for PHP scripts: .php3 / .php4
      Perl 5.004: /usr/bin/perl
      sendmail: /usr/sbin/sendmail
      MySql 4.0.14

Please note
Your CGI programs can be stored anywhere on your website - a special
directory such as /cgi-bin is not a must. The file extensions .cgi, .pl,
.php3 and .php4 determine whether or not a CGI script is executable.

Important information
: Please optimise your scripts relative to memory usage and CPU time. Our
system automatically stops scripts that use too many system resources.

Programming Limits

Package CPU Memory Numerical Processes
Business 6 seconds @ 100% 10 Mb 12
Professiona 8 seconds @ 100% 12 "

Re: SEO and processing forms.

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 09:56:23 GMT, "Mr. Polzek"

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There's an ebook available called "absolute beginners guide to cgi"
costs less than $20. It's very good, it explained a lot to me and I'm
the local doofus when it comes to techie stuff. I's all over the
place, Google it.

--       Gifty! Shiny! BB!  

Re: SEO and processing forms.

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I agree with Bill.  Get a text book.

As far as choice of method I would suggest starting with examples of ready
made form software, from the textbook,  and using your web page development
environment in source text editor mode so you can see exactly what you are

From the SEO point of view I have noticed one of my forms, which has several
very long pull down menu lists, receives quite a few visitors who are
seeking items in the pull down menu lists, so note that the text in your
menu lists may be indexed.  Having two menu words repeated very many of
times (like 179 repetitions of West and 179 repetitions of East) seems to
cause no problem.

Best regards, Eric.

Re: SEO and processing forms.

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:04:23 GMT, "Eric Johnston"

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What, about me being the local doofus?

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Oh, that. Heh-heh. You know, for a minute I thought...

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I can't really help further because I never followed it up. One has to
specialise so much now, I'm sure that we lose collectively as a
consequence of lack of cross-pollination of ideas.

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I've seen that before as well. Note that engines, in my experience,
will allow a form to have very very little content. So you can have
the key phrases in the drop-down and hardly anything else. You can
legitimately have a "Contact us about" page with very little else (bar
coding) in it except semantically-related keyword-rich phrases.

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Hmmm. Caused no problems so far, you mean. I'd be inclined to go for
semantic relations. No need to advertise!


--       Gifty! Shiny! BB!  

Re: SEO and processing forms.

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Thanks Bill.

Has the book taught you how to process forms?
If so, I will get it.

I know how to make them, but find difficult processing.

Now, after trial and error, I have learnt how to install ready-made scripts,
but there are a few BUTS...

They open in an external window leaving my website. Additionally, they are
in their own design, not my website's.

What I am really looking for is SOMETHING that lets me process a form I made
in Dreamwever or

something which would help me create a form in it, and the process is.

I am really stuck with this, started banging my head against the wall :)


Re: SEO and processing forms.

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:06:03 GMT, "Mr. Polzek"

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I assume it's in there, just get it anyway.

--       Gifty! Shiny! BB!  

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