My PR just got nuked

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I played the link exchange game heavily when I started the site two years
ago. I was pretty happy with a PR of 4 and decided to divert more time to
content and design.

My page rank dropped from 4 to 3, which got me miffed, but I still ranked
pretty high for the search queries I was aiming for, so I didn't pay much
attention to it.

Now, my page rank went from 3 to a ZERO in this last update! WTF?!? I still
rank pretty high for queries like "nunsploitation" "nun exploitation movies"
or even searches for reviews of movies like "Sacred Flesh" or "Satanico
Pandemonium" ... but there are other consequences to a ZERO PR that I'm
concerned about.

I just wish I knew who I rubbed the wrong way to get a ZERO. Any ideas?

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Re: My PR just got nuked

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:31:51 -0400, Nunsploitation Webmaster

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Google. It's likely they've taken away the PR you formerly had for the
reciprocal links on the basis that they seem to have been gained
artificially. I think the obvious link exchange days are on the way
out. It's a little threatening as serps are more amd more becoming
determined not necessarily by what naturally occurs, but by Google's
interpretation and attempted recreation of what naturally occurs.

        seo that watches the river flow...

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But, don't you see? There is no such thing as 'what naturally occurs'. Had  
SEO not developed as a business, links would be the popular vote as to the  
popularity of a site. In that situation links would count for something,  
like they used to (and probably still do to some extend).

But SEO is all about frustrating this idea of popular votes and all about  
trying to gain control over, what was supposed to be, the chaotic system.  
Don't cry over what you brought about yourself on to yourself.

The last Google dance gave some of my pages a boost in PR. From 3 to 5,  
sometimes with no incoming links at all, except from within the site  
itself. I don't really mind the changing algorithm. So far I've never  
experienced anything bad happening to my pages.
On the other hand, it does not noticebly effect my ranking on SERPs  
though. As it does not the other way around either if PR drops, so no  
worries I guess, okay?

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Re: My PR just got nuked

Barbara de Zoete wrote:

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Same here, the number of visitors I get grow faster then adding new pages
alone can justify :-D. Organic growth has some advantages.

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Yup, Google has several times mentioned that they try to make a search
engine that rewards good content. So I am afraid we will see quite some
tears, and hear many angry sounds the coming years.

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Barbara de Zoete wrote:
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a.. Avoid tricks intended to improve search engine rankings. A good rule of
thumb is whether you'd feel comfortable explaining what you've done to a
website that competes with you. Another useful test is to ask, "Does this
help my users? Would I do this if search engines didn't exist?"
a.. Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's
ranking or PageRank. In particular, avoid links to web spammers or "bad
neighbourhoods" on the web as your own ranking may be affected adversely by
those links.

My interpretation of the last sentence is that you should never link to a
site that uses link spamming techniques such as link farm or links page in
an attempt to mislead search engines as to the merit of the sites linked to.
If you need to link to a dodgy site (as some do have good content despite
their sins) then use rel="nofollow" for your visitors.  Then you should be

Reciprocal link schemes, as attempts to mislead search engines as to the
merit of the sites linked to, are now history.  Quality content that
satisfies the searcher is the way forward.  Put links only to help your

Best regards, Eric.

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Eric Johnston wrote:

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I agree with Eric on that one. Stop investing time in doing what is beyond
'natural'. What is natural or not is defined by the algorithms, which
quickly learn the tricks and adapt.

Barbara mentioned pages with high PR that have no external inbound links. I
see more or less the same trend on my site. Also, SERP's do not seem to be
affected by PageRank in many cases, which I found surprising. A new page
with PR0 ranked higher in a SERP than when it received a PR5.


Roy S. Schestowitz

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