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I was attempting to improve my search results by putting some extra
invisible content on my web site. At the time it seemed like a good idea,
but then I have been seeing several articles about how that can get you
banned. Well, without too much thought I quickly removed the hidden text
from my web site. I just want to know if I suffered a penalty due to this.

I have seen other sites using the following method. set background color
to #FFFFFF, and then set the text color to #FFFFFF. I imagine that that
would very easy for a spider to see that.

I did mine a little different... I didn't want people to be able to see
the text if they highlight it, or press Control A. So what I did was this.
Set the background to #FFFFFF. I then used a CSS class to actually move
the text off the screen, rather then change the color. so basicly the html
would look like this.

<body background="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
    <div class="offscreen">blah balh

Do you think that google or other engines would have picked up on this? Is
there a way for me to find out?

Re: Hidden text

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 00:49:09 -0400, Darc Kloud

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That is different. I don't think anyone thought of doing it through
CSS or using CSS to move it 'off screen' before.

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Someone else claimed that Google didn't care about hidden text and
then, a couple weeks later, stated their site had been removed from
the index. Granted they didn't use CSS though. Another person used
varying shades of same color - still white but text not being #FFFFF
also but different hex decimal ... and they stated they were banned.

It is a method specifically mentioned by more than one search engine's
guidelines on what to avoid doing in a site - regardless of how it is
attempted to be done.

So I would say just wait for someone to report your site to Google or
one of the other search engines and see what happens. Hidden text,
with CSS touches or not, would likely be detected on a manual review
of the site if someone reported it.


Re: Hidden text

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 05:37:00 +0000, C.W wrote:

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Yeah, no doubt about it you can tell there is something sneaky going on by
looking at the code, even though the css is in a different file. Id rather
not take the chance on getting banned though.


Re: Hidden text

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 02:27:46 -0400, Darc Kloud

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I don't think they would ever automatically look at CSS files for
positioned text, however. There are too many legitimate uses for this
property for that to happen. As long as the HTML, rendered with no CSS,
style or client-side scripts, doesn't attempt to hide content, you should
be set in that department.

Of course, if someone complained, they might make a decision manually.

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