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revolutionary rocket work. done by Robert Goddard jagseo 04-12-2006
Posted by jagseo on April 12, 2006, 2:24 am
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1921 New York Times editorial about Robert Goddard's
revolutionary rocket work

For years he carried on his work virtually alone. He experienced
frustrations of many kinds : financial difficulties, problems of health
as well as the resistance of a new mechanical device to taming and
development.

"What he tackled almost single handedly has since taken billions of
dollars and thousands of engineers to do now. Yet he designed and built
rockets that contained all the essential devices of those found in huge
space rockets of today."

a person who knew Goddard well
"The friendly warmth of this typical western community and the vast
open spaces around it afforded an ideal atmosphere for the creative
efforts of my husband. He spent ten happy and fruitful years in
Roswell, bringing to reality the dreams that are still so much a part
of today's efforts in space."

Mrs. Goddard on why Goddard's memorabilia should be exhibited at the
Museum.
"Mr. Goddard sustained his examination with great distinction."

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Posted by Henry Spencer on April 12, 2006, 9:53 am
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>For years he carried on his work virtually alone...

Note, though, that this was by his own wish. Attempts by others to get
him involved in cooperation and information exchange were persistently
rebuffed.

One result was that 14 years of well-funded work -- Goddard was much the
best-funded rocket researcher of his day -- nominally aimed at building a
stratospheric sounding rocket, never got anything higher than 9000_ft.
Goddard spent too much time exploring technological byways and never
focused on achieving successful high-altitude flights.

>"...He spent ten happy and fruitful years in
>Roswell, bringing to reality the dreams that are still so much a part
>of today's efforts in space."

Efforts which, by and large, were based on other people's work rather than
Goddard's. By the time he died, his secretiveness had rendered his work
irrelevant, because others -- starting later -- had surpassed it.
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Posted by Ken S. Tucker on April 14, 2006, 5:47 pm
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Henry Spencer wrote:
> >For years he carried on his work virtually alone...
>
> Note, though, that this was by his own wish. Attempts by others to get
> him involved in cooperation and information exchange were persistently
> rebuffed.

Henry, that's plain wrong, eventually 214 patents were
filed in Goddards name as a matter of PUBLIC record,
he made his discovery's available to all by patents.

Since I respect Henry I'll simply delete the rest or pop
a fuse and really tell him off :-)...
Ken


Posted by Henry Spencer on April 14, 2006, 8:07 pm
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>> >For years he carried on his work virtually alone...
>> Note, though, that this was by his own wish. Attempts by others to get
>> him involved in cooperation and information exchange were persistently
>> rebuffed.
>
>Henry, that's plain wrong, eventually 214 patents were
>filed in Goddards name as a matter of PUBLIC record...

More than half of them weren't even filed until after his death (by his
wife, filing on his behalf), by which time they were mostly a matter of
asserting intellectual priority and property rights, because others had
already developed many of the same ideas independently.

There are several accounts by/of people who *tried* to get Goddard
involved in joint ventures and information exchange, and gave up after
concluding that he simply wouldn't. See, e.g., the one in chapter 18 of
Wulforst's "The Rocketmakers", an account of Guggenheim trying to twist
Goddard's arm in 1938 to get him cooperating with the military, Caltech,
and the N.A.C.A., without any real success.

(On the spot and under pressure from his main sponsor, Goddard conceded
that perhaps Caltech might work on a problematic LOX pump for him... but
although he supplied data on the pump, he refused all requests for
information about related hardware that affected the problem. Moreover,
although the division of labor was supposed to help him, he quietly
continued work on the issue himself, and eventually told von Karman that
he'd solved the problem and there was no further need for Caltech to
pursue it. In response, von Karman told Guggenheim that trying to work
with Goddard was pointless.)
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Posted by Ken S. Tucker on April 15, 2006, 12:47 pm
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Henry Spencer wrote:
> >> >For years he carried on his work virtually alone...
> >> Note, though, that this was by his own wish. Attempts by others to get
> >> him involved in cooperation and information exchange were persistently
> >> rebuffed.
> >
> >Henry, that's plain wrong, eventually 214 patents were
> >filed in Goddards name as a matter of PUBLIC record...
>
> More than half of them weren't even filed until after his death (by his
> wife, filing on his behalf), by which time they were mostly a matter of
> asserting intellectual priority and property rights, because others had
> already developed many of the same ideas independently.

If this link is credible
http://www.allstar.fiu.edu/AERO/goddard.htm
then his ideas were worth at least US$1,000,000
(1960) not something I'd give away for free!

> There are several accounts by/of people who *tried* to get Goddard
> involved in joint ventures and information exchange, and gave up after
> concluding that he simply wouldn't. See, e.g., the one in chapter 18 of
> Wulforst's "The Rocketmakers", an account of Guggenheim trying to twist
> Goddard's arm in 1938 to get him cooperating with the military, Caltech,
> and the N.A.C.A., without any real success.

Understandable, he didn't want to be a govmint worker
nor institutionalized, his ability would have been severely
stifled in either case, and likely his data classified!
Recall Mass. govmint banned him, in that state, govmint
sucks, it always works to stifle individual initiative.

> (On the spot and under pressure from his main sponsor, Goddard conceded
> that perhaps Caltech might work on a problematic LOX pump for him... but
> although he supplied data on the pump, he refused all requests for
> information about related hardware that affected the problem. Moreover,
> although the division of labor was supposed to help him, he quietly
> continued work on the issue himself, and eventually told von Karman that
> he'd solved the problem and there was no further need for Caltech to
> pursue it. In response, von Karman told Guggenheim that trying to work
> with Goddard was pointless.)

What did Goddard have to gain? It would have been
a one way information flow, for low pay compared to
it's established value that was proven by patents.
Look at Goddard from the perspective of an inventor
businessman and his *agreement* with Guggenhiem,
given they got $500,000 for $50,000 invested.
Hope that helps.
Regards
Ken S. Tucker


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