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problem with validated site Corey Walker 10-21-2007
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Posted by Stan Brown on October 22, 2007, 7:51 am
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 21 Oct 2007 22:49:21 GMT from Jeff Gaines
> I read 'somewhere' (and I've read so much recently I can't remember where)
> that the background should not be coloured as some people have their PC's
> set up with specific colours due to visual impairment. Does that make any
> sense? I run XP and I experimented with background colours on the PC and
> found that IE7 does indeed follow the system settings.

Either set both text and background colors, or set neither. If you
set just one, the page inherits the other from the user's default
settings, and they may not work well together.

The PP was not suggesting to set background in isolation, but to set
it *because* foreground was being set.

The particular setting on black on white (or black on a very pale
color) is about the best there is for visual acuity. If anyone has
set black on blue as their default colors, it's because they like
those colors and not because it helps them read better.

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Posted by David E. Ross on October 21, 2007, 7:15 pm
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 On 10/21/2007 1:26 PM, Corey Walker wrote [in part]:

>
> My challenge is that a bunch of pages
> on our site were recently redesigned by a professional website designer

According to the tiny, tiny font at the bottom of the page (I had to use
the FONT+ button three times to read it), your "professional" was
Digital Sunshine Web Design. I judge how professional a Web developer
is by the developer's own Web pages, so I went to
<http://www.digitalsunshine.com/>. While there are no XHMTL errors on
that page, there are 5 CSS errors in the primary CSS file. That might
not seem like many, but there are only 17 CSS declarations.

There was a second CSS file that had no errors. Also, the page appeared
to have no WCAG-A accessibility errors. This means that Digital
Sunshine seems to understand the language of Web pages quite well. That
does not mean they create good Web pages. (Those of us who are literate
in the English language -- making few or no errors of grammar, syntax,
and punctuation -- still manage to say the wrong thing.)

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Posted by Beauregard T. Shagnasty on October 21, 2007, 8:20 pm
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David E. Ross wrote:

> Corey Walker wrote [in part]:
>
>> My challenge is that a bunch of pages
>> on our site were recently redesigned by a professional website designer
>
> According to the tiny, tiny font at the bottom of the page (I had to
> use the FONT+ button three times to read it), your "professional" was
> Digital Sunshine Web Design. I judge how professional a Web
> developer is by the developer's own Web pages, so I went to
> <http://www.digitalsunshine.com/>. While there are no XHMTL errors
> on that page, there are 5 CSS errors in the primary CSS file. That
> might not seem like many, but there are only 17 CSS declarations.

Ah. I see someone already visited 'ditigalsunshine'. Atrocious!

"Our creative web design process follows strict adherence to 'Web 2.0'
development standards ..." <lol> Then he has the audacity to place
links to the W3 validators. Sure, the page may be valid HTML, but it is
a sematic mess.

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-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

Posted by John Hosking on October 22, 2007, 12:34 am
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

>
> Ah. I see someone already visited 'ditigalsunshine'. Atrocious!
>
> "Our creative web design process follows strict adherence to 'Web 2.0'
> development standards ..." <lol> Then he has the audacity to place
> links to the W3 validators.

Although when you follow the "Valid CSS" link, you have to type in the
site's URL yourself. I couldn't find the "Valid Web 2.0" link...

> Sure, the page may be valid HTML, but it is a sematic mess.
>

And a semantic mess, too. ;-) Amazing: a whole site without a single
<p> element.


--
John
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Posted by Beauregard T. Shagnasty on October 22, 2007, 12:50 am
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John Hosking wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> Sure, the page may be valid HTML, but it is a sematic mess.
>
> And a semantic mess, too. ;-) Amazing: a whole site without a single
> <p> element.

Heh, I had a speeling fart in that post... sematic ... ditigalsunshine

I have an excuse: the Sox-Indians game was just starting. <g>

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-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

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