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I have an idea about what overclocking is (speeding up a processor over it's
normal speed) but how in the world do you do that?

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Pete wrote:
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In amd processors only buy a good ram memory and in Bios change the fsb
+2 it means you upgrade the cycles inside the procesor which is twice
in the speed  ram, if it works then you try another +2, it`s a gamble
but you can get the next "stock " procesor, f.ex. an athlon 3000+ at
2.2 Ghz basically is  a 3200+

Note Distress the Ht to 4x and disable cool`n quiet, for extreme OC I
recomend you after market cooling

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 Thanks. This gives me some idea.

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'Pete' wrote:
| I have an idea about what overclocking is (speeding up a processor over
| normal speed) but how in the world do you do that?

I've posted the information below several times this year.  Newer dual core
CPUs are out, and AMD overclocking requires slightly different techniques
than Intel overclocking, but the general procedures are the same.

All Pentium CPUs can be overclocked; some do better than others.

If the motherboard is 'overclocking friendly',
an Intel CPU is very easy to overclock.  If the motherboard is NOT
'overclocking friendly' the task is much more difficult.  If your
motherboard is 'overclocking friendly' the manual likely gives all the
information necessary to overclock, though the manual may have been
transplanted back and forth among several languages, and the information may
be a bit confusing.

#1.  Raising the CPU voltage can destroy your CPU.  NEVER raise the CPU
voltage more than 15%, and if you do raise it, do it in very small steps.

#2.  Raising the CPU clock speed will NOT damage your Intel CPU,
motherboard, memory, or anything else.  If you raise the clock speed too
much, the system will either to run in a stable manner, or will fail to
boot.  This is not a problem because either the BIOS will automatically
reset to default values or there will be directions in the manual on how to
reset to default speeds.

#3.  In overclocking, make any changes in small steps, checking for proper
operation after each change.

#4.  Overclocking works best when the CPU temperature is kept as low as

#5.  Intel CPUs can ONLY be overclocked by raising the clock speed.  Even if
the multiplier can be set in the BIOS, changing this settings has NO effect.

#6.  Some older motherboards may report an incorrect speed for CPUs that
have a higher speed than available when the BIOS was installed.

#7.  Intel CPUs have a quad-pumped memory bus; that means data is
four times for each clock cycle; for a 533 MHz FrontSide Bus speed the clock
speed is 133 MHz.  That 133 MHz clock speed is multiplied by a factor FIXED
and UNCHANGABLE inside the CPU to give the overall CPU clock speed.  For
your 2660 MHz CPU, the multiplier is X 20 (133 MHz X 20 = 2660 MHZ.)

#8.  The rated speed of the installed memory can limit the overclock.
Memory can be overclocked, but it will eventually reach a limit.  Faster
memory can be installed, but the cost may not be worth it.  The memory clock
can be set to a lower ratio (with some motherboards) to allow higher clock
speeds, but there is a performance penalty.

How you overclock depends on the specifics of your system, how much patience
you have, and much attention you pay to details.

A general approach:

* Download and install MotherBoard Monitor 5 (free) at .  This will allow you to monitor and
record the CPU speeds, fan speeds, CPU temperature (and perhaps motherboard,
memory, and other temperatures, and voltages.)

* Download and install SiSoft Sandra (free) at .  This program is a collection of
information gathering applets for your system.  It also has low level tests
of performance, as well as stress tests (necessary to establish proper
operation when the CPU is operating at full capacity.  I find version 2004
more useful than 2005, but 2004 is hard to find now.

* Use MotherBoard Monitor 4 and SiSoft Sandra because the vast majority of
the people who use this forum also use these applications

* Read the manual carefully.

* Clean the heatsink fins, and fans of all dust, grease, and dirt.

* Write down the settings in the BIOS.

* Write down the temperature and voltage information from SiSoft Sandra.

* Check the voltages reported by MotherBoard Monitor 5 for you system.  If
any are outside the specifications this may affect the operation of your
system, especially if it is overclocked.  Also check the total rated output
of your power supply, if it is marginal, overclocking (since more power is
required) may also be marginal.

* Steps for overclocking your Intel CPU (only after completing the above

    #0.  The standard setup for PCI bus and AGP bus speeds are fractions of
the clock speed.  Make sure the PCI/AGP Bus speeds are instead locked at 33
MHz/67 MHz; if the PCI bus speed is more than 36 MHz corruption of data on
your hard drives can occur.

    #1.  Increase the clock speed by 5%.

    #2.  Reboot and check for operation.

    #3.  If #2 is successful, repeat #1.

    #4.  If #2 is not successful, raise the CPU core voltage by 0.05 volts
(in NO case raise this voltage to more than a total of 15%, doing so may
instantly destroy your CPU; when the core voltage reaches this limit go to

    #5.  Go to #2.

    #6.  You have reached the limit of overclocking without changing other
factors which may include CPU cooling, System cooling, memory settings.
Installing memory capable of higher clock speeds may help.  On the other
hand, some of these changes may be expensive, and not worth the money for
the possible performance increase.

* After reaching the highest speed, check operation under full CPU load (use
SiSoft Sandra burn-in, other burn-in programs, or intense action 3D
accelerated first-person shooter games.)  If the system is not stable under
heavy load, try reducing the clock speed and/or CPU core voltage (higher
voltage means higher operating temperatures.)

* Check the installation of the CPU heatsink; new heatsink compound may help
CPU cooling.

* A better than stock heatsink/fan may aid overclocking.

* Improved system cooling may aid overclocking.

*  Exotic cooling of the CPU to room temperature or below can significantly
increase top speeds (or not, depending on the individual CPU speed, memory
quality, and motherboard.)

* Increasing the CPU voltage above 15% over specifications is likely to
INSTANTLY destroy the CPU
* There is always a chance that when you start fooling around inside the
system case of your computer that you may cause damage (the butterfinger

You can find a LOT of additional information on the Internet, including the
speeds that others overclockers have reached with your model CPU.  One
question you must ask yourself is WHY you wish to overclock; I can think of
three reasons:

    #1.  Higher performance at little or no expense with your present

    #2.  Just because you can, and enjoy experimenting

    #3.  Bragging rights - the highest possible speeds (which is going to
require a LOT more money.

Don't let this long list intimidate you; just go along step by step.

I am posting this on a system using
    aBit TH7-II (Intel 850 chipset) motherboard
    Pentium 4 2.6 GHz 400 MHz FSB Northwood CPU
    PC800 RDRAM 640 MBytes
    Stock CPU cooling
    450 Watt Antec Power Supply

I selected a clock speed in the BIOS of 121 MHz, giving a CPU speed of 121
MHz X 26 = 3146 MHz.  The CPU will overclock to a higher speed, but the
memory will not.  To reach a higher CPU speed requires setting the memory
clock/CPU clock ratio to other than 1, which reduces performance.  Since I
just want improved AND reliable performance and not the highest possible
clock speed, 3146 suits me fine, though with async setting 3.5 GHz is easily

Phil Weldon

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| I have an idea about what overclocking is (speeding up a processor over
| normal speed) but how in the world do you do that?
| -Pete

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Pete wrote:
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do you understand that when you don't archive, then others won't
benefit so much from the answer to your question?

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Pete wrote:
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I make it a habit of not answering questions that start with "X-No-Archive:


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You will most like need a custom computer with a BIOS
that lets you set Front Side Bus and/or voltages...or you might
be able to use a program from within windows to do it.

Its not rocket science.

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