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modules for nntp client Gerry Ford 04-14-2008
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Posted by A. Sinan Unur on April 15, 2008, 2:35 am
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>
>>> Here's where I run into double trouble. I'm having a heckuva
>>> time figuring out what he means with win32::ansiconsole.

...

>> In any case, I am not sure but I am assuming it is an
>> version of the following module:
>>
>> http://search.cpan.org/~jlmorel/Win32-Console-ANSI-1.00/
>
> I don't think it is.

I think it is.

You snipped it but

http://backpan.perl.org/authors/id/J/JL/JLMOREL/

http://backpan.perl.org/authors/id/J/JL/JLMOREL/Win32-ANSIConsole-0.01.tar.gz

shows it to be.

> When I have a script with
> use Win32::ANSIConsole qw/coninit cls/;
> , perl.exe is looking for an absent ANSIConsole.pm that has
> coninit and cls defined.

...

> First of all, Cls is, by your criterion, different from cls, and
> there is no coninit at all.

The API might have changed between Win32::ANSIConsole and
Win32::Console::ANSI. Clearly, the module is available from the
backpan link. If it is a Pure Perl module, you can install it
by unpacking the archive and manually copying the files to
a custom directory and reading

perldoc lib

>> If you cannot find that through ppm, you might want to
>> add the following repositories:
>>
>> Name: uwinnipeg
>> URL: http://cpan.uwinnipeg.ca/PPMPackages/10xx/package.xml
>>
>> Name: trouchelle
>> URL: http://trouchelle.com/ppm10/package.xml
>>
>> Name: Bribes
>> URL: http://www.bribes.org/perl/ppm/package.xml
>
> I looked at these, and they look like:
> Common Gateway Interface Class Lincoln D. Stein (lstein@cshl.org)

Those are repositories to add to ppm.

> This looks like it was expecting a program to read text, not a
> human ambling about, trying to find a module.

Exactly. Add the repositories to ppm.

>> perl -MNet::NNTP -e "print qq"
>> will print the version installed (assuming it is installed).
> 2.24
>
>>> win32::ansiconsole. Without the module for me to look at, I'm
>>> not gonna figure out what, e.g. coninit is.
>>
>> E:\Home\asu1> ppm install Win32::Console::ANSI
>> Downloading Win32-Console-ANSI-1.00...done
>> Unpacking Win32-Console-ANSI-1.00...done
>> Generating HTML for Win32-Console-ANSI-1.00...done
>> Updating files in site area...done
>> 7 files installed
> How do I replicate this process on windows? As it is, a file that
> ends in tar.gz just creates huge problems for me.

Use ppm.

If I understand correctly, right now you are trying to get a program
written by someone else to run on your system. Since clp.misc is not
a support group for random scripts found on the web, you should expect
to either do a considerable amount of work yourself or obtain support
from the author of the script.

After reading the source of the module

http://backpan.perl.org/authors/id/J/JL/JLMOREL/Win32-ANSIConsole-0.01.tar.gz

you can decide if consinit and cls are necessary and look for a way of
replacing that functionality if needed.

Or, as I mentioned above, you can manually unpack the module files
without relying on the automated process which ppm gives you for
modules found in current repositories.

Sinan

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Posted by Gerry Ford on April 15, 2008, 4:31 pm
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>>> In any case, I am not sure but I am assuming it is an
>>> version of the following module:
>>>
>>> http://search.cpan.org/~jlmorel/Win32-Console-ANSI-1.00/
>>
>> I don't think it is.
>
> I think it is.

Thanks again for your attention.

It turned out we were somewhat both correct (and errant, but that's glass
half-empty). I heard from the author and downloaded what he thought
ANSIConsole.pm was. Here's what the first of it looks like:
package Win32::ANSIConsole;

use strict;
use warnings;
use Win32::Console::ANSI qw/SetConsoleSize Title/;

require Exporter;
our @ISA = qw(Exporter);
our %EXPORT_TAGS = ('const' => [qw(BOLD UNDER BLINK REVERSE
BLACK RED GREEN YELLOW BLUE MAGENTA CYAN WHITE
BBLACK BRED BGREEN BYELLOW BBLUE BMAGENTA BCYAN BWHITE)]);
our @EXPORT_OK = (@}, qw(coninit title attr cls
clreol curpos));

, so Win32::Console::ANSI is just a heartbeat away, and this version is a
home-rolled wrapper that probably makes a sexier layout on windows because
of what all he stuffs into coninit (it's rows, columns and colors--win32
specific).

With his version in /lib/Win32/ and your version in /lib/Win32/Console,
perl.exe doesn't puke on any of the use statements. All but this one were
included in the core.


>>> If you cannot find that through ppm, you might want to
>>> add the following repositories:
>>>
>>> Name: uwinnipeg
>>> URL: http://cpan.uwinnipeg.ca/PPMPackages/10xx/package.xml
>>>
>>> Name: trouchelle
>>> URL: http://trouchelle.com/ppm10/package.xml
>>>
>>> Name: Bribes
>>> URL: http://www.bribes.org/perl/ppm/package.xml
>>
>> I looked at these, and they look like:
>> Common Gateway Interface Class Lincoln D. Stein (lstein@cshl.org)
>
> Those are repositories to add to ppm.
>
>> This looks like it was expecting a program to read text, not a
>> human ambling about, trying to find a module.
>
> Exactly. Add the repositories to ppm.

This was a huge breakthrough for me today. I was able to use AS's ppm with
confidence for the first time today. I got two of those loaded. AS hangs
on the trouchelle one. (?)

>>> E:\Home\asu1> ppm install Win32::Console::ANSI
>>> Downloading Win32-Console-ANSI-1.00...done
>>> Unpacking Win32-Console-ANSI-1.00...done
>>> Generating HTML for Win32-Console-ANSI-1.00...done
>>> Updating files in site area...done
>>> 7 files installed
>> How do I replicate this process on windows? As it is, a file that
>> ends in tar.gz just creates huge problems for me.
>
> Use ppm.

Are you suggesting that if I have a tar.gz creature on my desktop, I can use
ppm to install it?
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Posted by A. Sinan Unur on April 15, 2008, 7:37 pm
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>

...

>>>> E:\Home\asu1> ppm install Win32::Console::ANSI
>>>> Downloading Win32-Console-ANSI-1.00...done
>>>> Unpacking Win32-Console-ANSI-1.00...done
>>>> Generating HTML for Win32-Console-ANSI-1.00...done
>>>> Updating files in site area...done
>>>> 7 files installed
>>> How do I replicate this process on windows? As it is, a file
>>> that ends in tar.gz just creates huge problems for me.
>>
>> Use ppm.
>
> Are you suggesting that if I have a tar.gz creature on my desktop,
> I can use ppm to install it?

No, I misunderstood your question.

I have MS VC++ Express 2008 (or version 9, it goes by both names
apparently) installed. So far, I have run into no problems with

perl Makefile.PL

nmake -f Makefile

nmake -f Makefile test

nmake -f Makefile install

If you do install it, make sure to run the commands in cmd.exe shell
you start by using the shortcut installed in the Tools subfolder of
the VC++ folder in the start menu.

So, extract the compressed archive into a directory (preserving the
directory structure), start the said cmd.exe shell and off you go!

You might find

http://sourceforge.net/projects/console/

useful.

There is also Strawberry Perl http://strawberryperl.com/

I haven't looked at it since last year, but the new site design is
cute!

Sinan

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Posted by Ben Morrow on April 15, 2008, 9:29 pm
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>
> I have MS VC++ Express 2008 (or version 9, it goes by both names
> apparently) installed. So far, I have run into no problems with

If this is with ActivePerl, you may be better off swiching to gcc.
ActivePerl is built with MSVC 6, and MSVC 9 has a different,
incompatible (differently-named, in fact) msvcrt.dll. This means that if
an extension calls a libc function directly, you will end up trying to
load two different versions of the C library into the same process.
Unsurprisingly, this doesn't work terribly well... gcc uses a MSVC
6-compatible msvcrt.dll, and recent versions of ActivePerl have support
for switching to gcc if it's in your path.

Ben


Posted by A. Sinan Unur on April 16, 2008, 9:07 am
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>
>>
>> I have MS VC++ Express 2008 (or version 9, it goes by both names
>> apparently) installed. So far, I have run into no problems with
>
> If this is with ActivePerl, you may be better off swiching to gcc.

I decided to give another shot (last time I tried was a few years
back) to building Perl myself. This time, I used VC9 Express. I am
happy to report that everything worked right out of the box.

Thanks to Makefile maintainers.

Sinan

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