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letting a search engine 'see' image text? Pete 10-10-2007
Posted by Pete on October 10, 2007, 3:03 pm
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There's probably a standard answer for this, but it's never cropped up
for me before.

I have a (png) image that includes some text (a labelled group photo
of a conference), and it'd be useful if a search engine can find those
embedded names too -- without redundantly placing them in visible HTML
text. What's a good way to do this?

Some of the text can go in the 'alt' tag of the image, which I suppose
is checked by a search, but that could be a bit long. Suppose I could
use white-on-white like the spammers do... (:-/) I expect there's a
recognized way, though.
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Posted by Thomas Mlynarczyk on October 10, 2007, 4:08 pm
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Also sprach Pete:

> I have a (png) image that includes some text (a labelled group photo
> of a conference), and it'd be useful if a search engine can find those
> embedded names too -- without redundantly placing them in visible HTML
> text. What's a good way to do this?

<img
src="group-at-conference.png"
alt="Short text equivalent"
title="Some more information"
longdesc="detailed-description.html"
>

But I don't know if search engines would actually follow the longdesc-link.

> Some of the text can go in the 'alt' tag of the image

There is no alt tag. There is just an alt *attribute*.

Greetings,
Thomas



Posted by Pete on October 10, 2007, 8:49 pm
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>
>But I don't know if search engines would actually follow the longdesc-link.
This is the problem -- I haven't found a (text or otherwise) browser that
sees longdesc at all, so maybe it's unlikely that a search engine would,
either.

I may eventually just have to see if the alt attribute shows up in a
google...
>
>
>There is no alt tag. There is just an alt *attribute*.
Sorry -- sloppy language... (:-/)
>
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Posted by Lars Eighner on October 10, 2007, 9:13 pm
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and talented Pete broadcast on comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html:

>>
>>But I don't know if search engines would actually follow the longdesc-link.
> This is the problem -- I haven't found a (text or otherwise) browser that
> sees longdesc at all, so maybe it's unlikely that a search engine would,
> either.

> I may eventually just have to see if the alt attribute shows up in a
> google...

Why not just style descriptive text display: none?


>>
>>
>>There is no alt tag. There is just an alt *attribute*.
> Sorry -- sloppy language... (:-/)
>>
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Posted by Steve Swift on October 11, 2007, 6:55 am
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> I may eventually just have to see if the alt attribute shows up in a
> google...

Beware of using ALT. If I turn images off, then I'll see your "hidden"
text in my browser, where you might have captioned your image "Pete (The
Bastard)" :-)

I'd see it if I viewed the source anyway.

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