Dell mini-pci - only sees 4 AP's vs 18

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We have a couple of Dell C610 laptops
with the Dell internal mini-pci 1300 b/g wifi cards.

The WAP is upstairs,
and our son noticed that coverage downstairs
was lower in the family room.

He tried it with my wife's laptop - a Fujitsu tablet
with the Atheros AR5006esx internal wifi card
and it worked much better...

Last night I grabbed the Fujitsu and installed NetStumbler,
and setup both laptops next to each other running NS.

Amazingly, the Fujitsu with the internal Atheros card
saw 18 APs !!!   and the Dell only saw about 4 ?
It was a mix of B and G, and channels 1,6,11 -

I sorted the NS list by signal strength and both laptops
pretty much reported our own AP with the same numbers,
but the Fujitsu clearly was seeing more of the wifi world.

SO....not sure if I should consider trying a different
internal mini-pci wifi card for our Dell laptop or ???

"If everything seems to be going well,
you have obviously overlooked something." - Steven Wright

Re: Dell mini-pci - only sees 4 AP's vs 18

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Any chance the "missing" AP's are using WPA2 and therefore can't be seen by
the 1300 which is capable of only WPA?

Could be the card in the Fujitsu is newer and capable.

Purely a guess.

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I haven't looked deeply into WEP, WPA, and the variants,
but I would guess that ANY wifi WAP would have to beacon
in a universal format just to be seen,
regardless of what encryption is used later for data exchange.

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Never had much luck with PCI wireless on my C610. Have tried several
different cards with intermittant results. Especially when travelling and
trying to connect to various networks. I finally went USB and installed a WN
121T adapter. Works great with my secure network at home as well as other
connections on the road

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It also does audio and picture formats too. /

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Re: Pinging: olfart [Format Factory]

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thanks Bill. I'll give it a shot when I get some free time. I haven't done
much in the way of converting lately....except for burning recorded movies
from DirecTv to DVD for the Retirement Home. And VideoRedo handles all that
for me including removing the commercials. It cost about $70, but is such a
time saver it was well worth the cost.
Been spending most of my time trying to break Win7 Beta. I'm beginng to like
it alot better than Vista although Win XP will probably remain my primary
O/S for a long time to come.

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Ugh, good luck maintaining any sort of decent throughput.  With that many
networks there's bound to be slow downs.

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My bet is that the Atheros AR5006esx, being more modern, has a better
signal than the card in the C610.  Design of the internal antenna may
also be a factor.  The Latitude C-series all have the internal antenna
terminate on either side of the lower half of the chassis.  Newer models
run the pair of antenna leads into the LCD screen.  This is more of a
pain in the ass to repair, but positions the antenna better to send and
receive signals.

Some of the laptops I repair here pick up the signal from a router
across the street.  Others do not.  Luckily, there are not a lot of
routers around here to cause channel conflict and confusion.

I hope your router has a somewhat unique SSID, not something like
"linksys".  With NetStumbler in action, you can at least change the
channel on your router to keep channel conflict down, if you have not
already done so... Ben Myers

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