Booting Via CMOS

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I have Win95 installled in Partition F on my winxp/pro laptop.
I could'nt figure out how to activate it while xp was running so
went to comp Usa  and an old geezer in there says only way you can
do that is to hit F12 on boot up,  get into the bios and look for
a list of drivers you can boot from.  (in my case F:).   He said
the will get me to the F: partition and I can then run the setup
to get it actually installed.
Dont ask me why I want win95 for.   I just want it!!

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Re: Booting Via CMOS

I don't think that's going to work. Win95, as far as I remember, will
not boot from an extended partition. The boot list should present you
with a choice of boot devices - PRIMARY partitions (3 max), CD drives,
floppy disks, network, etc.

I'd use a partitioning tool to move your disk partitions around and make
space for an additional primary partition. After creating it, you can
use the partitioning tool to make it the active partition and then
install your Win95. Once installed, you can reactivate the xp partition
and VERY CAREFULLY edit the boot.ini file, adding an option to boot from
the Win95 partition. Once it's set up properly, the xp boot loader will
give you the choice of booting either system. Information about editing
the boot.ini file is available on the web; try searching for boot.ini on

If you mess up the boot.ini file, you may not be able to boot xp at all.
I wouldn't want to try this unless I had a way to boot the system and
gain accesss to the xp partition so I could fix any mistake I made to
the boot.ini file.

Phil Sherman

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Joseph Fenn wrote:
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Don't do it Joe!

Get a spare HD and install W95 on it. Then just swap the HDs when you have
the need to run W95.


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This sounds like a job for Patition Magic's Boot Manager.

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In spite of your hidden agenda, the action you take depends on the
result you want.

My current favorite method is to install MS Virtual PC 2007 on my
laptop.  It's free and doesn't take up much space.
Then you can create a virtual drive and install win95.  It runs under XP
in a window in it's own segregated disk and ram space.
It's two files that can be easily removed/replaced/backed up.
My XP laptop can run xp, win95, win98, win2K and a couple of variants of
linux in combination SIMULTANEOUSLY...until I run out of ram.
Win95 may not have device drivers for newer hardware.  It won't
necessarily read your drive format.  Virtual PC takes care of all that.
If Win95 supports the emulated lan card, VPC translates that to whatever
wired or wireless hardware you're running on your XP box.

If you insist on running 95 on the native hardware, you have a bunch of
issues.  The bios reports drive parameters to the OS.  But XP lets you
change those.  Then there are boot managers that logically rearrange
partition numbers.  Many times, I've gotten myself into a pickle because XP
starts to boot, then changes the drive letters right out from under
itself and the whole thing comes crashing down. I've not been able
to do anything except reinstall a backup.

If you want to install 95 on "E" drive or some such, you should be able
to do that with xp.  There are tutorials written on the proper order of
installation to make this work.

Swapping in a new hard drive to run win98 is not a viable option for
most laptops, although I have made it work with a second drive installed
in a drive bay on a NEC laptop.  I've been able to set up the internal
drive as secondary master and the external drive as primary master.
System runs normally from internal drive.  When you plug in the external
one, the system boots from it.  But this does have issues when drive
letters change.

My case was different.
I wanted three OS versions all booting from C: plus a common drive
that always shows up as D:
I found that I couldn't get a reliable system if I didn't install the
OS on the REAL first partition called c:
I used Ranish Partition manager to set up 4 PRIMARY partitions.
I used 8ig for Partitions 1,3,4, and put all the rest in partition 2.
Depending on the size of your drive, that D: partition can be too big
for a particular OS to handle.  YMMV.
Install an OS to drive C:
Use Ghost to image that partition and restore it on partition 3.
Install another OS to drive C:
Use Ghost to image that partition and restore it on partition 4.
Install the third OS to Drive C:

Install Smart Boot Manager.  It has capability to autohide partitions,
remap the drive letters and keep it all straight.
At boot, I have the option to select any of the three OS's.
The others are hidden.
The big partition 2 is always D:
Obviously, the format of partition 2 has to be something ALL of the OS's
can read.
All the operating systems think they're on C:
Since they were all REALLY installed on C:, they're able to keep it all long as you don't go reassigning drive letters from inside
the OS.  And you can image any one of the partitions, reinstall it
to a drive with a single partition and no boot manager and it will run.

Bottom line...what you're trying to accomplish really IS important.

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