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Looking at the Sunday newspaper circulars I noticed lots of
advertisements for laptops.  Surprised at how many looked nearly identical.

Makes me curious about who actually makes them and who merely slaps
their labels on the products from others.

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far east products..............

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There's only about 4 or 5 factories that make laptops, and most of them are
in Taiwan. All are badge engineering, with just memory, CPU, HDD and a few
other key components added by the 'manufacturer's.

Apparently Asus make the spiffing Apple PowerBooks, and some of the Sony's.

Uniwill make alot of Advent, Gericom, Targus, and Multivision.

Clevo make the Alienware Chassis, as well as some of the Dell ones (although
Dell have started using their own custom designs)

So if China ever invades Taiwan, then expect the world notebook blockade.


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War with China will, IMO, have little impact on laptops since Taiwan,
Inc. is manufacturing in China, LLC.  Neither company will risk war at
the expense of major export industries.


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Compal is another big manuf.
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And Quanta.

Toshiba did make SOME of their own models, not sure if they still do or not.

Note, that while these ODM's make some models that just get different
names slapped on them, for the larger customers the models may be
different from what the OP called the "badge engineered" models, indeed,
in some cases the OEM (Dell, Toshiba, etc.) may design the models, while
only the manufacture (not design) is contracted out.  OR, they could be
a model similar to that sold by that same mfgr. to other OEM customers.

Dan wrote:

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I can only write about my own laptop, a Compaq m2105us manufactured by

What I would like to know is how to reach these manufacturers to get as
much technical information about one's laptop.

In my own situation, I did find a website for Quanta, , but could find no technical information there

HP/Compaq DOES make available maintainance and service guides for their
laptops for if you ever had the urge to completely disassemble yours.
It just doesn't go into much of an extensive description of what's on
the laptop motherboard for those who REALLY want to push the envelope.

I've wondered about a couple of things but am not at all eager to go
through the expense of buying things just for trial-and-error
experiments. A look at the motherboard specs might embolden me more.

For example: I wonder what would happen if I were to drop in a 1GB
SO-DIMM into my m2105us even though Compaq states that biggest that you
can put in is 512MB.

My reason is that it's my suspicion that HP/Compaq would rather you
were to buy a higher-end laptop than to load up memory on this
bottom-of-the-line model. Can someone here tell me what manufacturing
savings were made by leaving out the capability of using 1GB SO-DIMMs?
One-tenth of one cent?

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Asia, Inc. is not going to deal directly with customers.  There are
usually non-disclosure agreements in place that "protect" both the
manufacturers and the vendors from unnecessary poking around in their

The price differentials for laptops are (guessing here) a complex mix of
old, slightly old, current, and state-of the art components.  Take a
look at for desktop mainboard prices vs components and
CPU prices to get a general idea of what the component prices might do
to the price of the whole.  There is a significant amount of price
leverage in the consumer market that is reflected to some extent in the
OEM market where they trade in thousands of component units and
licensing fees.

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hmm i read once that someone had managed sucessfully to upgrade their memory
chips on their vaio laptop...

key to the manoevre was knowing the bios's maximum capacity. and also just
mimicing the capacity of the chips in the upgrade modules( ie by taking
chips from the largest upgrade module and swapping them for the surface
mounted memory on the motherboard. was the page.

i hope this doesn't incite you to destroy your computer! practice soldering
somewhere else first, like on a dead toothbrush or somehting.

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I'm fortunate in that both memory slots for my laptop is easily
accessible  from the bottom. I won't have to go through the drastic
steps described in the webpage you quoted.

The ATI Radeon RS480 chipset is very recent and I simply can't believe
that the motherboard on my Compaq m2105us is hard-wired to accept no
more than 512MB in each memory slot. That the BIOS firmware may not be
programmed to accept more would be VERY believable.

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