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labels in web pages P.R.Brady 09-15-2004
|--> Re: labels in web pages Harlan Messinge...09-15-2004
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Posted by P.R.Brady on September 15, 2004, 3:19 pm
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We have a number of pages on our site which use labels which I cannot
find defined (with for example <a name= > ) but which work perfectly
well. 'top' and 'side bar' in particular.

eg 'top' in
http://www.bangor.ac.uk/ced/studentguide.htm

Is it defined somewhere in the page, or is it pre-defined in html?
If pre-defined, is there a definitive list of them?

Regards
Phil



Posted by Harlan Messinger on September 15, 2004, 11:24 am
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>We have a number of pages on our site which use labels which I cannot
>find defined (with for example <a name= > ) but which work perfectly
>well. 'top' and 'side bar' in particular.
>
>eg 'top' in
>http://www.bangor.ac.uk/ced/studentguide.htm
>
>Is it defined somewhere in the page, or is it pre-defined in html?
>If pre-defined, is there a definitive list of them?

Your clue should lie in the realization that it's pretty far-fetched
to think that a browser would know, without being told, which part of
the page is the "side bar".

Some browsers will jump to the top of the page for *any* fragment
(fragment = the part of a URL to the right of the # sign) that isn't
defined on the page. "#top" has no intrinsic meaning; it could just as
easily be "#ashfdioasdhf".

You don't need <a name="..."> to create a proper target for a URL
fragment, however: the ID attribute on *any* element will serve the
same purpose in modern browsers.

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Harlan Messinger
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Posted by P.R.Brady on September 15, 2004, 4:50 pm
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P.R.Brady wrote:
> We have a number of pages on our site which use labels which I cannot
> find defined (with for example <a name= > ) but which work perfectly
> well. 'top' and 'side bar' in particular.
>
> eg 'top' in
> http://www.bangor.ac.uk/ced/studentguide.htm
>
> Is it defined somewhere in the page, or is it pre-defined in html?
> If pre-defined, is there a definitive list of them?
>
> Regards
> Phil
>

Thanks for the prompt replies!
Phil



Posted by Rijk van Geijtenbeek on September 15, 2004, 5:28 pm
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> We have a number of pages on our site which use labels which I cannot
> find defined (with for example <a name= > ) but which work perfectly
> well. 'top' and 'side bar' in particular.
>
> eg 'top' in
> http://www.bangor.ac.uk/ced/studentguide.htm

Some browsers go to the top of the page when use *any* fragment identifier
that is not specified in the page.

> Is it defined somewhere in the page, or is it pre-defined in html?
> If pre-defined, is there a definitive list of them?

Nope, this is either error-handling or browser-specific extensions.


--
Rijk van Geijtenbeek

The Web is a procrastination apparatus:
It can absorb as much time as is required to ensure that you
won't get any real work done. - J.Nielsen


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