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internet mapping patent restrictions? Andy B 08-10-2004
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Posted by Andy B on August 10, 2004, 4:20 pm
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I've noticed that http://www.multimap.com/ have european and US
patents approved for internet mapping applications - clicking on a map
and identifying 'resources'. Patent links are at the bottom of the url
given.

To me this seems in the realm of amazon's one click buy patent and
bt's supposed ownership of general hyperlinks, i.e. daft. GIS is
centred upon the idea of displaying layers of interest above
basemapping. If these patents are enforced then surely this would be
against the interest of all of us but in particular the GIS vendors
who supply web mapping software.

Are multimap enforcing these patents? If they are, surely its hugely
restrictive on the whole industry. I would be interested to hear your
views - espcially from a vendor. But do they frequent this group? ;-)
Or even multimap themselves.

here's the abstract of their US patent.

"A map of the area of a client computer (10) is requested from a map
server (11). Information relating to a place of interest is requested
from an information server (12) by the client computer (10). The
information is superimposed or overlaid on a map image at a position
on the map image corresponding to the location of the place of
interest on the map. The information (or "overlay") server (12) may
contain details of, for example, hotels, restaurants, shops or the
like, associated with the geographical coordinates of each location.
The map server (11) contains map data, including coordinate data
representing the spatial coordinates of at least one point on the area
represented by the map."


Regards,
AndyB


Posted by Nick Kew on August 11, 2004, 7:16 am
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        coastalrocket@yahoo.co.uk (Andy B) writes:

> here's the abstract of their US patent.

What's the date on it? Would 1988 be prior art?

--
Nick Kew


Posted by Andy B on August 11, 2004, 4:48 am
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nick@hugin.webthing.com (Nick Kew) wrote in message
>         coastalrocket@yahoo.co.uk (Andy B) writes:
>
> > here's the abstract of their US patent.
>
> What's the date on it? Would 1988 be prior art?

1988 would be. yes. what were you thinking of?

the US patent:
Appl. No.: 011691
Filed: February 13, 1998
PCT Filed: August 16, 1996
PCT NO: PCT/GB96/01996
371 Date: February 13, 1998
102(e) Date: February 13, 1998
PCT PUB.NO.: WO97/07467
PCT PUB. Date: February 27, 1997

and regarding the European patent:
"Multi Media Mapping Limited is pleased to announce that it has been
granted a patent covering internet mapping technology.

The European patent EP0845124B, entitled "Computer System for
Identifying Local Resources and Method Therefor," relates to
Multimap.com's technology for displaying both an image of a map and
information data relating to at least one place of interest on the map
to an end user.

The European patent was filed in August 1996 and granted in May 2000.
A corresponding patent has already been granted in Australia, with
number AU708387. Other corresponding patent applications are pending
in several additional countries. "


Posted by Nick Kew on August 11, 2004, 1:54 pm
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        coastalrocket@yahoo.co.uk (Andy B) writes:

>> What's the date on it? Would 1988 be prior art?
>
> 1988 would be. yes. what were you thinking of?

Specifically, a vehicle tracking system, one component of which was real-
time displays of vehicle positions superimposed on a digital map. 1998 is
IIRC the year that went live for paying Clients. Ongoing development work
included hooking it up to a database to relate vehicle positions to
places they might wish to travel (fleet management, rapid response)
or avoid (eg traffic holdups). Displays in those days were in a control
room, as opposed to being delivered by Internet to the office or home.

> PCT Filed: August 16, 1996

Well around that time was when everyone-and-his-dog in the remote sensing
business (including me) was developing web-based systems for that kind of
thing.

> The European patent EP0845124B, entitled "Computer System for
> Identifying Local Resources and Method Therefor," relates to
> Multimap.com's technology for displaying both an image of a map and
> information data relating to at least one place of interest on the map
> to an end user.

.... and one would doubtless have to be a lawyer to argue which technologies
might infringe it, or constitute prior art. It was your first post that
seemed to describe more-or-less any GIS.

--
Nick Kew


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