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image alt style pop up for text mr_burns 08-06-2004
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Posted by mr_burns on August 6, 2004, 8:25 am
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hi,

in html, how do i create a pop up description box for text. i want, in
the same way that when you write the image alt tag and the user rolls
the cursor over the image a pop up box appears, but for text. any
help?

cheers

burnsy


Posted by Chris Morris on August 6, 2004, 4:47 pm
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bissatch@yahoo.co.uk (mr_burns) writes:
> in html, how do i create a pop up description box for text. i want, in
> the same way that when you write the image alt tag and the user rolls
> the cursor over the image a pop up box appears, but for text. any
> help?

1) There's no such thing as an alt _tag_. You mean alt attribute.

2) That's not what the alt attribute is for, read
http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7Eflavell/alt/alt-text.html

Mozilla and other recent browsers do not display the alt attribute
when the image is being displayed.

3) You want the title attribute (can be used on images too)
<p title="description"> ... </p>
<img src="logo.jpg" alt="Widget Corp." title="Providing Widgets Worldwide">

--
Chris


Posted by Mark Tranchant on August 6, 2004, 4:47 pm
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mr_burns wrote:

> in html, how do i create a pop up description box for text. i want, in
> the same way that when you write the image alt tag and the user rolls
> the cursor over the image a pop up box appears, but for text. any
> help?

<span title="Popup text">blah blah</span>

....or any other element you want. Assign a class to the element, and
style it so that the user knows to mouseover it. See also <abbr> and
<acronym>.

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Mark.
http://tranchant.plus.com/


Posted by Alan J. Flavell on August 6, 2004, 5:09 pm
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On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Mark Tranchant wrote:

> <span title="Popup text">blah blah</span>

Good answer, as far as it goes ;-)
>
> ...or any other element you want.

Yes, preferably, *any* other element, if there's an appropriate one.
Keep <span> as the last resort. Don't you agree?

> Assign a class to the element, and style it
> so that the user knows to mouseover it.

A dotted box seems to be a fairly conventional clue. I'm not sure
I can think of a better one. Cursor=help is no use by itself, if the
user had no motive to go mousing over it anyway - this is supposed to
be information, not a treasure hunt (as I'm sure you'd agree, right?)

> See also <abbr> and <acronym>.

Fine things, in theory, yes. But IE refuses to support <abbr>, and
quite what an <acronym> is exactly, has been the topic of numerous
acr..ymonious (sorry!) arguments, unfortunately. (Which I'd rather
not start all over again here, thanks ;-)

But don't forget <dfn title="defining instance">dfn</dfn>

I give you, for instance:

abbr, acronym, dfn, .abbr { border: 1px dotted #666;
background-color: #eee; color: #030;
border-top: none; cursor: help; }

with non-acronym abbreviations done as e.g
<span class=abbr title="Windows Task Force"><abbr
title="Windows Task Force">WTF</abbr></span>
on the days when I'm feeling generous towards IE users.

all the best

(Yes, it -was- meant to be a joke)


Posted by Neal on August 6, 2004, 12:53 pm
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wrote:

> A dotted box seems to be a fairly conventional clue. I'm not sure
> I can think of a better one.

I'd use just a dotted underline. Left and right margins on inline elements
get weird when wrapped.


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