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Re: non-breaking hyphens??

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:39:11 -0400, Harlan Messinger

>> You may be right on that, but I do recall a televised report from a
>> match between "Muhammad Ali (Cassius Clay)" and an opponent that I do
>> not recall. The showdown was on american soil for sure and I will never
>> forget that the TV reporter did announce the weight of the combattants
>> in stones :-)
> I would *guess* that that had to do with the nationality of the
> broadcaster and that of his audience, not that of the competitors or
> the location of the arena.

.... which would bring us back to the point!

Re: non-breaking hyphens??

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:20:36 +0100, Dr John Stockton

> Just because you drive on the right side of the road, you should not
> think that you drive on the correct side of the road - note that you do
> not drive in the right side of the car, but in the left side.  Most
> people are right-handed; driving as in the UK, the dominant right hand
> is scarcely distracted from the vital task of steering, leaving the left
> hand free to fumble with the gear lever, handbrake, radio, cigarette
> lighter, passenger, ... .

In the US we are capable of learning how to drive left-handed. :P [1]

> Television made for the international market is not a reliable guide,
> since it panders to the limitations of the prime customers - the USA is
> undoubtedly still the country with the greatest product of call-
> themselves-English-speakers times average-disposable-income, and we are
> currently still willing to support the USA's chief export product, which
> is green paper or its nominal equivalent.

Thanks for buying all those hamburgers, man. Yet I still don't have health

> Now you'll tell me that,
> although so firmly wedded to the Imperial system of measurement (in
> spite of 1776), Americans do not use or understand the stone of 14
> pounds avoirdupois.

Well. One, I never have heard anyone, in my life, refer to someone's
"stones" other than in connection to a medical problem or referring to
their testicles. Two, I cannot even pronounce avoirdupois, it always comes
out Auberjonois. Three, I'm not married. ;)

> But the UK is, and has for some while been, entirely metric except for
> what directly affects the ordinary uneducated person - retail beer and
> milk, personal size in common parlance, and distances & speeds on the
> roads - the matters that even politicians (below the upper grades) have
> to understand.

In the US, we use pounds, ounces, pints, etc. for nearly all groceries.
Beer is still sold in pints, and it should be. Yet I buy vodka in the 1.75
liter bottle, and carbonated soda in 2 liter bottles. Height and weight
are generally in feet/inches and pounds respectively in most contexts. I
thought you limeys used kmH for speeds, shows what I know. I live somewhat
close to Canada, so I do see km every now and again.

> In particular, the medical profession and civil engineering are entirely
> metric here.

Can't speak to civil engineering, but the medical community in the US does
use metrics nearly, if not totally, exclusively.

Sounds like we are more alike than different. Except for the lifts and the
lorrys and the draughts and that stuff. And I never had a fag my whole
life but my dad once spanked my fanny. Ok I take it back...

[1] Refers to an old joke. It can be used for any pair of adversaries, but
here it'll be Harvard and Yale. The two men, wearing their respective
school logos, are in the men's room. After finishing up, the Yale man
walks to the sink to wash up. The Harvard mand goes directly to the door.

The Yale man speaks up, "At Yale, we wash our hands after urinating."

The Harvard man calls back before exiting, "At Harvard we don't piss on
our hands."

Re: non-breaking hyphens??

Once upon a time *Harlan Messinger* wrote:

>> On Fri, 8 Oct 2004, Frances Del Rio wrote:
>> > is there a non-breaking hyphen in HTML??
>> &#8209;  <
>> > 1-800-444-5454...  (and is not broken into two lines if phone no. occurs
>> > near end of a line..)
>> Write your telephone numbers in standard format (ITU E.164).
>> Then there should be no hyphens in your numbers.
> Probably not. On a web page for a flower shop in Davenport, Iowa, a phone
> number should be written in the format commonly used by ordinary people in
> Davenport, Iowa, not in a manner adopted by international commercial
> concerns in Europe. Likewise, dates on a web-based calendar of events for a
> church in Walla Walla are going to appear as "4/13/04, 4:30 P.M." or "April
> 13, 2004, at 4:30 pm". "2004-04-13 16:30" would be inappropriate.

I have understand that common accepted international standards is not
accepted in U.S. :-)

2004-04-13 16:30 is very easy to understand, e.g each day (date) have 24
hours. And its not a big problem if the line braks between the date and
the time, as they are separated.

All "real" browsers don't even break the date. But we know the problem
here is IE, as with many other things.


Re: non-breaking hyphens??

Fri, 8 Oct 2004 18:13:12, seen in
>Write your telephone numbers in standard format (ITU E.164).
>Then there should be no hyphens in your numbers.

Have you a Web reference, preferably HTML not PDF, for that standard or
for a useful subset of it?
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Re: non-breaking hyphens??

On Sat, 9 Oct 2004, Dr John Stockton wrote:

>> Write your telephone numbers in standard format (ITU E.164).
>> Then there should be no hyphens in your numbers.
> Have you a Web reference, preferably HTML not PDF, for that standard or
> for a useful subset of it?

Sorry, no. And it seems it was the wrong number (Pun! Pun!) anyway.
Please refer to <news:comp.std.internat>

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