Anyone familiar with CMS?

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I am told that a first step towards entering my existing files into a
database for migrating to a content management system is to strip all tags
except for possibly paragraph tags. I don't want to lose the semantic markup
I have using the headers h1 through h6 (I actually use these for the purpose
they are intended).

Please forgive me if this is the wrong newsgroup to ask such a question.

Re: Anyone familiar with CMS?

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  If you know the name of the CMS, this would help to get
  more specific answers.

  The contents of many web pages that are created with a CMS
  effectively is just plain text (.txt) with paragraphs.
  Sometimes headings are used, but rarely other markup. Some CMS
  (ab)use HTML only to decorate the content with distractions
  (advertisments, and so called »navigation«), that often
  outweighs the actual content and has a more rich markup.

  CMS are intended to be used by authors not aware of markup, and
  so proper markup might be considered to be »too complicated«.
  It should be like writing on a typewriter. Dijkstra explained
  how software companies perceive »the user«:

      »He is stupid, education resistant if not education proof,
      and he hates any form of intellectual demand made on him,
      he cannot be delighted by something beautiful, because he
      lacks the education to appreciate beauty. Large sections
      of computer science are paralyzed by accepting this moron
      as their typical customer.«

  Of course, there also are CMS - for example MediWiki - that
  allow more elaborated versions of markup.

  It would be desirable that a CMS can accept or import all HTML
  element types, or even DocBook or TEI. But not every CMS will
  be able to do this.

  Sometimes an author also might not be allowed to use all
  possibilities of HTML for security reasons.

  In a large company, the persons making the decisions about
  which CMS to use, often are ignorant about markup and solely
  guided by the visual appearence of the output in a single
  browser and the perceived »simplicity« of the system for »the
  user« and possibly the workflow and »document flow«.

  On the other hand, one also must admit that HTML has
  semantic markup for technical text (var, kdb, code) that
  are rarely needed in a general newspapers, while it lacks
  markup (person, calendar date, subheading) that might be
  useful in a newspaper.

  But a CMS also could accept an XML application with exactly
  the required element types as its input language that might
  be an extension of XHTML.

Re: Anyone familiar with CMS?

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I have been advised to make my web site more interactive, and told that a
CMS is an easy way to do this. The one I selected is Drupal, and a freelance
coder will help me convert. His only condition was that I move my domain to
a Unix server (I've been on Windows IIS for a long time). I hate to think
that converting to Drupal will lose information content though...

Re: Anyone familiar with CMS?

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Drupal will allow you to retain content markup (<h1> and the like). We
front this with TinyMCE that allows our non-technical Content Editors
to use a WYSIWYG editor within the constraints that we have defined.


Re: Anyone familiar with CMS? (Stefan Ram) writes:
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  OK, another - possibly legitimate - reason:

  When individual authors are allowed to use element types like
  »strong«, the articles might appear less uniformly, because
  some authors might us »strong« too often and others never.

  But the CMS could still /accept/ »strong« and then possibly
  discard it, instead of requesting the user to do this.

Re: Anyone familiar with CMS?

The Bicycling Guitarist wrote:
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It may depend on the particular CMS, but if your markup is currently
semantically correct it would be wrong to remove all tags. If the
content is stored as XML rather than HTML, you might want to convert
those tags, but still not strip them out.


Re: Anyone familiar with CMS?

On 6 Feb, 02:58, "The Bicycling Guitarist"
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Put simply: No.

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