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how many CA's (cross posted...) Marco Tonoli 10-24-2006
Posted by Marco Tonoli on October 24, 2006, 12:23 pm
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Hi all, i have a question:

i have a PKI infrastructure, with a offline root, an enterprise CA and a
domain controller. We use PKI for smart card, email signing and what future
time will offer...
Now we start a branch office with many user so i make a new domain
controller (for same central domain) in the branch office for autentication
speed and geographics redundance. The lan's have non egual ip addressment but
one see each other. I'll correctly set "site and service" applet so pc remote
will use remote DC.
My question is... i need also a second CA in the branch office ? if not i
can have speed problem ? (i don't kon how fast is connection, specifically
during working hour).

And, if i need a second CA, can install on DC ? (i think have not CPU power
problem and no security access problem) and there same particolar procedure
to avoid strange situation like pc autentication or PKI process on erratic CA
and DC ?

Thanks all in advance (and excuse my english.... writing from italy.)


Posted by MarioC on October 24, 2006, 3:23 pm
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Hi there,

Since the CA is only used when issueing certificates it would not make any
sense to install a second one in the branch office. All required information
(CRL, AIA) can be found redundant in AD.

Installing ca CA on a DC is supported. Best practice would be to install the
CA on a dedicated (virtual?) secure machine.

Mario




> Hi all, i have a question:
>
> i have a PKI infrastructure, with a offline root, an enterprise CA and a
> domain controller. We use PKI for smart card, email signing and what
> future
> time will offer...
> Now we start a branch office with many user so i make a new domain
> controller (for same central domain) in the branch office for
> autentication
> speed and geographics redundance. The lan's have non egual ip addressment
> but
> one see each other. I'll correctly set "site and service" applet so pc
> remote
> will use remote DC.
> My question is... i need also a second CA in the branch office ? if not i
> can have speed problem ? (i don't kon how fast is connection, specifically
> during working hour).
>
> And, if i need a second CA, can install on DC ? (i think have not CPU
> power
> problem and no security access problem) and there same particolar
> procedure
> to avoid strange situation like pc autentication or PKI process on erratic
> CA
> and DC ?
>
> Thanks all in advance (and excuse my english.... writing from italy.)
>



Posted by Marco Tonoli on October 25, 2006, 4:06 am
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ok, so i issue a certificate from central, then crl and aia will found
locally trough the local DC because i correctly set "site and service"
applet. correct ?

Perfect.

If there is a problem on the line to-from branch office... wht typi of
result i can have ? I thnk only problem if i need to rennovate a certificate,
so think is better to issue certificate with duration long, something like 30
gg and hope 30th day line is ok. Correct ?

Thanks

Marco


"MarioC" wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> Since the CA is only used when issueing certificates it would not make any
> sense to install a second one in the branch office. All required information
> (CRL, AIA) can be found redundant in AD.
>
> Installing ca CA on a DC is supported. Best practice would be to install the
> CA on a dedicated (virtual?) secure machine.
>
> Mario
>
>
>
>
> > Hi all, i have a question:
> >
> > i have a PKI infrastructure, with a offline root, an enterprise CA and a
> > domain controller. We use PKI for smart card, email signing and what
> > future
> > time will offer...
> > Now we start a branch office with many user so i make a new domain
> > controller (for same central domain) in the branch office for
> > autentication
> > speed and geographics redundance. The lan's have non egual ip addressment
> > but
> > one see each other. I'll correctly set "site and service" applet so pc
> > remote
> > will use remote DC.
> > My question is... i need also a second CA in the branch office ? if not i
> > can have speed problem ? (i don't kon how fast is connection, specifically
> > during working hour).
> >
> > And, if i need a second CA, can install on DC ? (i think have not CPU
> > power
> > problem and no security access problem) and there same particolar
> > procedure
> > to avoid strange situation like pc autentication or PKI process on erratic
> > CA
> > and DC ?
> >
> > Thanks all in advance (and excuse my english.... writing from italy.)
> >
>
>
>

Posted by MarioC on October 25, 2006, 12:26 pm
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> ok, so i issue a certificate from central, then crl and aia will found =

> locally trough the local DC because i correctly set "site and service" =

> applet. correct ?
>=20

Correct.

> Perfect.
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> If there is a problem on the line to-from branch office... wht typi =
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> result i can have ? I thnk only problem if i need to rennovate a =
certificate,=20
> so think is better to issue certificate with duration long, something =
like 30=20
> gg and hope 30th day line is ok. Correct ?
>=20

If the line to your branch office goes down nobody could issue or renew =
new certificates. Since CRL and AIA information is stored in your AD =
applications including smart card logon are not affected.

I would suggest to set the certificate life time to about 1 year. You =
can set the renewal interval to about 6-8 weeks before expiration. So =
6-8 weeks before the user's certificate is going to expire Windows XP =
can auto-renew the smartcard logon certificate. A "balloon tip" will pop =
up which informs the user that his certificate has to be renewed. The =
user only has to provide the PIN code to access the smart card.

Mario


> Thanks=20
>=20
> Marco
>=20
>=20
> "MarioC" wrote:
>=20
>> Hi there,
>>=20
>> Since the CA is only used when issueing certificates it would not =
make any=20
>> sense to install a second one in the branch office. All required =
information=20
>> (CRL, AIA) can be found redundant in AD.
>>=20
>> Installing ca CA on a DC is supported. Best practice would be to =
install the=20
>> CA on a dedicated (virtual?) secure machine.
>>=20
>> Mario
>>=20
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>> > Hi all, i have a question:
>> >
>> > i have a PKI infrastructure, with a offline root, an enterprise CA =
and a
>> > domain controller. We use PKI for smart card, email signing and =
what=20
>> > future
>> > time will offer...
>> > Now we start a branch office with many user so i make a new domain
>> > controller (for same central domain) in the branch office for=20
>> > autentication
>> > speed and geographics redundance. The lan's have non egual ip =
addressment=20
>> > but
>> > one see each other. I'll correctly set "site and service" applet so =
pc=20
>> > remote
>> > will use remote DC.
>> > My question is... i need also a second CA in the branch office ? if =
not i
>> > can have speed problem ? (i don't kon how fast is connection, =
specifically
>> > during working hour).
>> >
>> > And, if i need a second CA, can install on DC ? (i think have not =
CPU=20
>> > power
>> > problem and no security access problem) and there same particolar=20
>> > procedure
>> > to avoid strange situation like pc autentication or PKI process on =
erratic=20
>> > CA
>> > and DC ?
>> >
>> > Thanks all in advance (and excuse my english.... writing from =
italy.)
>> >=20
>>=20
>>=20
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Posted by Marco Tonoli on October 25, 2006, 1:16 pm
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Thanks Mario, you help was very useful.

Marco

"MarioC" wrote:

>
>
>
> > ok, so i issue a certificate from central, then crl and aia will found
> > locally trough the local DC because i correctly set "site and service"
> > applet. correct ?
> >
>
> Correct.
>
> > Perfect.
> >
> > If there is a problem on the line to-from branch office... wht typi of
> > result i can have ? I thnk only problem if i need to rennovate a
certificate,
> > so think is better to issue certificate with duration long, something like
30
> > gg and hope 30th day line is ok. Correct ?
> >
>
> If the line to your branch office goes down nobody could issue or renew new
certificates. Since CRL and AIA information is stored in your AD applications
including smart card logon are not affected.

>
> I would suggest to set the certificate life time to about 1 year. You can set
the renewal interval to about 6-8 weeks before expiration. So 6-8 weeks before
the user's certificate is going to expire Windows XP can auto-renew the
smartcard logon certificate. A "balloon tip" will pop up which informs the user
that his certificate has to be renewed. The user only has to provide the PIN
code to access the smart card.

>
> Mario
>
>
> > Thanks
> >
> > Marco
> >
> >
> > "MarioC" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi there,
> >>
> >> Since the CA is only used when issueing certificates it would not make any
> >> sense to install a second one in the branch office. All required
information
> >> (CRL, AIA) can be found redundant in AD.
> >>
> >> Installing ca CA on a DC is supported. Best practice would be to install
the
> >> CA on a dedicated (virtual?) secure machine.
> >>
> >> Mario
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi all, i have a question:
> >> >
> >> > i have a PKI infrastructure, with a offline root, an enterprise CA and a
> >> > domain controller. We use PKI for smart card, email signing and what
> >> > future
> >> > time will offer...
> >> > Now we start a branch office with many user so i make a new domain
> >> > controller (for same central domain) in the branch office for
> >> > autentication
> >> > speed and geographics redundance. The lan's have non egual ip addressment
> >> > but
> >> > one see each other. I'll correctly set "site and service" applet so pc
> >> > remote
> >> > will use remote DC.
> >> > My question is... i need also a second CA in the branch office ? if not i
> >> > can have speed problem ? (i don't kon how fast is connection, specifically
> >> > during working hour).
> >> >
> >> > And, if i need a second CA, can install on DC ? (i think have not CPU
> >> > power
> >> > problem and no security access problem) and there same particolar
> >> > procedure
> >> > to avoid strange situation like pc autentication or PKI process on
erratic
> >> > CA
> >> > and DC ?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks all in advance (and excuse my english.... writing from italy.)
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>

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