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how can I make money off my ultimate security solution for servers GrapeGhost 04-16-2007
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Posted by Al Dunbar on April 22, 2007, 12:56 pm
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Ultimate security is a holy grail that will remain forever elusive. In the
real world security fits into a balance amongst various factors, including
risk and the actual cost of having security breached.

/Al

> But I think that, when someone believes that there is a 100% secure
> solution, the hackers will have there day ...
>
> First, we had virusses.
> We solved it (not 100%) by making ant-virus software.
> But the real solution agains virusses is:
> -closing all ports (against worm virusses)
> -not use email (against email virusses)
> -prevent users to download anything from the internet (could be a virus)
> ....
> But the 100% solution is not an option, so the cat and mouse game between
> virus makers and anti-virus makers began.
> The same happened to spy and adware.
>
> Next, we had buffer overruns, where hackers could execute code in data
> segments. To solve this problem for a 100%, everyone should replace all
> hardware for new ones that support hardware dep (the software version may
> have bugs in it).
>
> Next, we got SQL Injections. So, all buggy websites should have been
> rebuild (not done; I regulary see websites that are stil vunrable)
>
> The problem is that people make software. And because people make
> misstakes, the software is full of errors. Because of these errors there
> are openings for misuse of the software, local or remote.
>
> You cannot solve this problem by making software, because this software
> will have it own mistakes in it.
>
> To give an analogue, look at the story of the enigma. The Germans had an
> unbreakable code - which eventually was broken by the english.
> Like there is no unbreakable code, there is no secure system.
>
> The only thing that we can do is make it so hard to hack a system, that no
> one bothers to try it anymore. But there will always be hackers that only
> see this as a challenge, and break in anyway.
>
> By the way, nice link. I don't know how to secure this .....
>
> S. Pidgorny <MVP> wrote:
>> G'day:
>>
>>> The only truly secure system is one that is powered off, cast in a block
>>> of concrete and sealed in a lead-lined room with armed guards - and even
>>> then I have my doubts.
>>> -Eugene H. Spafford, director of the Purdue Center for Education and
>>> Research in Information Assurance and Security.
>>
>> Yes, powered off is clearly not enough any more: Quantum computer works
>> best switched off
>> (http://www.newscientisttech.com/article/mg18925405.700.html). The rest
>> is good old physical security - how many times it din't work?
>>
>>> Every computer with outside connections is a security risk.
>>> As long as anyone can log on, it is possible to hack it.
>>
>> I'll give you my smart card - hack away. Seriously, the notion of
>> "everything is nsecure" works best for security philosophers (likes of
>> Bruce Schneier) and not so much for the hackers.
>>



Posted by Theo Verweij on April 21, 2007, 6:57 am
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To really test your solution, set up a system, and invite hackers to try
to hack the system. Also invite the world press for this.
You should give a price to the first one that succeeds.

If someone succeeds, you have still work to do.
If nobody succeeds, you have proven to the world that it really works,
and then someone (like microsoft) will buy it from you.


GrapeGhost wrote:
> I want to sell a security solution that I have designed, it makes a server
> completely immune to viruses, security vulnerabilities, hackers and it fixes
> 100% percent of the current security problems with windows operating systems.
> I fully expect that in a few years every important server in the world will
> be using some variation of my design.
>
> This is not just my opinion, I have shared this design with my friends who
> are network admins and IT professionals and they have spent weeks trying find
> some flaw in my system. All of them agree, this is truely a awesome
> security solution.
>
> I am a computer geek and I don't know the first thing about business, now
> that I have a awesome security solution, I don't know what to do with it. I
> only know that I want to make some serious money. If someone can help me
> cash-in on this, I would gladly share some of the profits.
>
> I have been working as an IT specialist and a government contractor for 12
> years. In my free time I have designed a bullet-proof solution that makes a
> windows server completely unhackable. This solution uses off-the-shelf
> software and will run on any modern system.
>
> Just imagine how much money the federal government could save by never
> having to patch servers, purchase anti-virus, or maintain servers in any way
> ever again. My design basically turns a windows server into a network
> appliance.
>
>
> Thanks!
>

Posted by Al Dunbar on April 22, 2007, 12:55 pm
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> To really test your solution, set up a system, and invite hackers to try
> to hack the system. Also invite the world press for this.
> You should give a price to the first one that succeeds.
>
> If someone succeeds, you have still work to do.
> If nobody succeeds, you have proven to the world that it really works,

Not so. being unable to prove one thing is not proof of the opposite.

/Al

> and then someone (like microsoft) will buy it from you.
>
>
> GrapeGhost wrote:
>> I want to sell a security solution that I have designed, it makes a
>> server completely immune to viruses, security vulnerabilities, hackers
>> and it fixes 100% percent of the current security problems with windows
>> operating systems. I fully expect that in a few years every important
>> server in the world will be using some variation of my design.
>>
>> This is not just my opinion, I have shared this design with my friends
>> who are network admins and IT professionals and they have spent weeks
>> trying find some flaw in my system. All of them agree, this is truely
>> a awesome security solution. I am a computer geek and I don't know the
>> first thing about business, now that I have a awesome security solution,
>> I don't know what to do with it. I only know that I want to make some
>> serious money. If someone can help me cash-in on this, I would gladly
>> share some of the profits.
>>
>> I have been working as an IT specialist and a government contractor for
>> 12 years. In my free time I have designed a bullet-proof solution that
>> makes a windows server completely unhackable. This solution uses
>> off-the-shelf software and will run on any modern system. Just imagine
>> how much money the federal government could save by never having to patch
>> servers, purchase anti-virus, or maintain servers in any way ever again.
>> My design basically turns a windows server into a network appliance.
>> Thanks!
>>



Posted by Roger Abell [MVP] on April 22, 2007, 9:22 pm
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>
>> To really test your solution, set up a system, and invite hackers to try
>> to hack the system. Also invite the world press for this.
>> You should give a price to the first one that succeeds.
>>
>> If someone succeeds, you have still work to do.
>> If nobody succeeds, you have proven to the world that it really works,
>
> Not so. being unable to prove one thing is not proof of the opposite.
>

Quite correct.
However, as an indicator, it may be sufficient to bring in
some interest either for investment or takeover.



>> and then someone (like microsoft) will buy it from you.
>>
>>
>> GrapeGhost wrote:
>>> I want to sell a security solution that I have designed, it makes a
>>> server completely immune to viruses, security vulnerabilities, hackers
>>> and it fixes 100% percent of the current security problems with windows
>>> operating systems. I fully expect that in a few years every important
>>> server in the world will be using some variation of my design.
>>>
>>> This is not just my opinion, I have shared this design with my friends
>>> who are network admins and IT professionals and they have spent weeks
>>> trying find some flaw in my system. All of them agree, this is truely
>>> a awesome security solution. I am a computer geek and I don't know the
>>> first thing about business, now that I have a awesome security
>>> solution, I don't know what to do with it. I only know that I want to
>>> make some serious money. If someone can help me cash-in on this, I
>>> would gladly share some of the profits.
>>>
>>> I have been working as an IT specialist and a government contractor for
>>> 12 years. In my free time I have designed a bullet-proof solution that
>>> makes a windows server completely unhackable. This solution uses
>>> off-the-shelf software and will run on any modern system. Just imagine
>>> how much money the federal government could save by never having to
>>> patch servers, purchase anti-virus, or maintain servers in any way ever
>>> again. My design basically turns a windows server into a network
>>> appliance. Thanks!
>>>
>
>



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