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Gamer Infinity 8800 Pro (NO MONITOR)

*BASE_PRICE: [+1289]

CAS: CoolerMaster Stacker 830 Tower 420W Case W/ Side-panel Window (NVIDIA
SLI Edition)

CS_FAN: Extra Case Cooling Fan [+3] (2 x Fans [+3])

CPU: (Sckt775)Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo E6750 CPU @ 2.66GHz 1333FSB 4MB L2
Cache 64-bit



FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)

FAN: CoolerMaster Liquid CPU Cooling System (Superior Cooling Performance +
Extreme Silent at 20dBA)


HDD: Single Hard Drive (500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)




MOUSE: Logitech Optical Wheel Mouse (BLACK COLOR)




MOTHERBOARD: (Quad-Core FSB1333) Asus P5N-E nForce 650i SLI Chipset LGA775
FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard

MEMORY: (4GB (2x2GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory [+350] (Corsair
Value Select or Major Brand)


OS: Microsoft(R) Windows Vista(TM) Ultimate [+105] (64-bit Edition [+19])

PRO_WIRING: Professional Wiring for All WIRINGs Inside The System Chasis
with High Performance Thermal Compound on CPU [+19]

POWERSUPPLY: 600 Watts Power Supplies (CoolerMaster Unit 600 Watts eXtreme
Power - SLI Supports)



SPEAKERS: Logitech (BLACK) X-540 70Watts 5.1 Configuration Speaker System

USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports

VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 16X PCI Express (Major Brand Powered by


WNC: PCI Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps Network Interface Card

_PRICE: (+1788)

2002 1200C
1991 FLSTF
"What shall we use to fill the empty spaces where we use to talk?"

Re: New System

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Instead of upgrading to 2x2GB config for +350, I'd take the default
of 2x1GB offered for zero extra, then shop for memory separately,
to get exactly what you want. You have four slots, 1GB sticks start
at $25 each and go up in price, and if you want a 4GB config, that
is one way to do it. The only reason I'd consider a 2GB stick in a
build, is if I was going to 8GB immediately. Check the Newegg pricing,
to see if there is any merit to 2GB sticks at this time.

Any time you buy a system like this, there is bound to be a component
or two, which has a few problems. It is possible to do some research,
and see if there are issues with any of it.

For example, occasionally there are issues reported installing OSes
with 4GB memory present. Removing a stick of RAM and doing the install
can fix it. If Cyberpowerpc does the install for you, they'll take care
of that detail. But then, you won't know later, what they did to get
it all installed.

I had a computer built locally, and in terms of the build quality, there
wasn't a single problem with the result. One advantage of the local purchase,
is if I hadn't been happy with the result, they were in "bludgeoning" distance
from me (small claims court if necessary, or credit card dispute). When dealing
mail order, from some distant location, a company can more easily give you
the cold shoulder.

In terms of checking out the company themselves, you can try Resellerratings
or maybe the BBB where they are located. It does pay to do a background check,
because there are some bad players out on the 'net.


Re: New System

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There are far worse cases than a CM Stacker out there, but
personally I find their metal grill plus multiple foam
pieces behind it, a pain to clean, and that there are so
many little gaps and holes in the rear (and maybe the side
panel, I don't recall on the windowed units) that dust still
gets in because the case is negatively pressurized.

Just a general comment, I don't know what other case options
they have and if they had others those cases might be worse.

My general point is that if a case is filtered, it should
have easier to remove and clean filters and no stray holes
elsewhere which will progressively have more and more
airflow % through them as the filters begin to accumulate
dust.  To some extent I find the CM filtered designs worse
than having no filters because unless the environment is
very dusty, it ends up a low enough dust level inside that
it's not a big deal to clean dust out every once in a while
but with the metal grills and filters on that (and similar
other CM cases), the dust is visibly stuck to the other
visible area of the case which looks less attractive.

Further, all the top 5-1/4" bay panels are also filtered
intake which means less airflow through the bottom HDD bay
and up past the chipset, a larger % of air flows past
optical drives which seldom need that airflow and a short
path out the PSU.  IF you have hard drives mounted in the
upper bays it is more ideal, but even then IMO you should
take a piece of cardboard or whatever, cut to the shape of
the inset filter pieces, and block off bay intake for bays
that go unused.  I would also consider blocking the top
blowhole, because it just robs the system of more air
flowing through the PSU and past the CPU heatsink and CPU
VRM power circuitry.  In a system with filtered intake,
caution should always be taken before adding additional
exhaust fans beyond the large rear and PSU exhaust.  If any
futher fans are added they should ideally be intake instead
of exhaust, and also filtered.

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Ask what kind of fans these are, if they are sleeve bearing
(including the original CM case fans) you ought to
lube/relube them as they aren't particularly long-lived fans
otherwise.  Also insist the fans have a low default (@ 12V)
RPM or they may significantly add to the noise.  Generally
unless you have a good adjustable fan controller or skill in
reducing RPM by other methods, a good target RPM is 2400 or
less, and at 2400 they won't be quite inaudible especially
when mounted to an external case panel.

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Personally I would get a 2nd DVDRW drive instead.  They
don't cost much more than DVD readers do.  If the cost
difference is too much, leave it off the order and buy
elsewhere later for about $30.

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I would get a floppy, on a system costing this much it is
worthwhile to spend the $10 (buy elsewhere if it costs more)
just to have any possible scenario covered where you might
need one.  It doesn't mean I'd expect you to regularly use
it, but for such a small % of system cost a system can have
no concessions, plus you have the bay for it anyway.

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I would get a 2nd HDD, because even if you don't need the
addt'l capacity it will speed up the system by dividing
concurrent I/O between the two drives if you have
forethought about installing applications and datafiles so
this happens.  The 2nd drive might, same as other parts, be
cheaper bought separately from a 3rd party.

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You might see if they'll knock some $$ off the cost to omit
these peripherals, then buy exactly what you want instead as
they're probably pretty basic (but admittedly I didn't see
exactly what they were offering, I just expect they would
advertise specific models if they were better than the
low-end (for Logitech, I don't mean to imply Logitech parts
are especially low-end but in their own product lines some
are better than others) sets.

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It seems odd to buy a modern system today without gigabit
ethernet.  If you'll own other systems and use them in a
LAN, I suggest getting a gigabit ethernet card.  Actually,
nevermind, I think that board does have gigabit ethernet and
they just didn't list the feature correctly.

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3rd party testing seems to suggest that PSU is reasonable
quality, but really worth only 500W or so... has lower 12V
current capability than most name brand 600W PSU.  It should
be sufficient for your current system config, but I would
pick something else if you might ever use SLI'd video cards.

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Given you're buying a system with a gamer's video card, you
may want a Creative Labs sound card with hardware EAX
support.  Like other parts, it can be added later, though if
you add too many parts later it becomes a support problem as
they may be reluctant to support a system with a
configuration they didn't set up.

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Do you need an 11g wifi card?  If not, I'd omit it and get
an 11n card later.

Re: New System

Thanks for input, I was mainly worried about compatibility issues , some of
the points like hard drives were decided because Im scavanging my old system
which currently had a 500 gb sata and a 300 gb ide Also Some optical drives
will be moved

2002 1200C
1991 FLSTF
"What shall we use to fill the empty spaces where we use to talk?"
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