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November 17, 2007, 9:08 pm
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I am running Abit Kr7a with AMD 1700 CPU and 1 GB Memory. I use
photoshop and Adobe premier occasionally. Now I want to upgrade to
something better, but using my ATA drives for the moment. Is it
possible to use these drives on SATA header? I like to stick to ATA
though as I can not afford SATA hard drives right now, but I would
switch to SATA ultimately. I have to buy a new SATA DVD writer if I
have to use my hard drives utilizing the 1 ATA header being provided
by the Mobo manufactures now a days.
I want stable Mobo with an option of upgrading to upcoming Intel
45nm CPU and DDR3 option when the prices fall. Like to start with
Intel CPU(?) in the price range of £50 - 60. I intend to upgrade when
more powerful CPUs/DDR3 mem become affordable, FSB1333 or better. Lots
of PCI slots. On board VGA card, would save me money initially, IEEE
header and LAN headers, 2 would be great.
Do I have to buy a compatible PSU, what wattage would that be.
Up till now I have not over clocked my computer, but I am thinking to
do it now to get max. out of my CPU before upgrade. I think that is
I think I do not have any option but to invest in a pricey
Thanks for your suggestions.
Re: Need suggestion for a new Computer Please.
Yes you could buy an adapter board, but this adds to the
cost of the build, and adding this addt'l mechanical
connection reduces reliability so you are better off just
connecting them to the motherboard PATA instead.
Yes, or buy a UDMA (not RAID) PCI or PCI Express PATA
(ATA100 or ATA133 preferred) controller card. RAID cards
typically don't support ATAPI / Optical drives but non-RAID
cards do. Some RAID cards can be jumpered to non-RAID mode
and/or use a different bios to support ATAPI.
That is not a very big budget for the CPU. I recommend you
wait and put a larger budget towards at least a Core 2 Duo
E2160 or E4300, but I don't know the current competitive
prices on those outside of the US.
I recommend you stick with DDR2 for better value. 2GB of
DDR2 is a nice start and the prices for DDR2 are very
attractive right now. You will have to look around a lot to
find a board with lots of PCI slots and two LAN ports.
If your present system uses the present PSU's 4 pin 12V
connector to the motherboard to power the CPU, it is
possible you can reuse your present PSU. If your present
PSU has that connector and is rated for (roughly, it depends
on how accurately the PSU is rated) at least 14A of 12V
current on it's label, it is still possible it can power
these new parts (depending on how many hard drives you
ultimately intend to run simultaneously).
If the above factors are not true, you do need a replacement
PSU meeting these criteria, generally you would want a good
name-brand PSU of a current generation, 300W rating but a
little more would be better like up to 500W... even 500W in
a good PSU is overkill but for long term use and support of
your next upgrade it can be money well spent since it may
not cost that much more than a quality 300 or 400W would.
Depending on which AMD 1700 you have, it is possible it can
overclock a lot. Earlier Palomino 1700 didn't overclock
very far, but latter cores would typically overclock to
around 2.1-2.5GHz or so, depending on the stability of the
motherboard and having a good enough heatsink to keep the
temps down (prefer under 60C for best o'c).
No, it is not necessary to "invest" or spend a lot on a
motherboard to overclock and it somewhat defeats the purpose
as you could have instead just spent the money on a more
expensive CPU that runs faster already. Instead, spend a
bit on a quality heatsink that can not only keep the CPU
cooler but also do so without making a lot of addt'l noise.
For a relatively cheap and good overclocking CPU I suggest
the E2160, then buy the motherboard that has as many PCI
slots as possible and two PATA channels. If you really need
a 2nd LAN port then it may be easier to just add a network
card than to try and get all these things in the same
motherboard. I mean these things in addition to making sure
the board also has reasonable overclocking settings... it
need not be known as an outstanding overclocking motherboard
if you aren't going to buy exotic memory and use
water-cooling, rather it only needs to have the basic bus
and voltage settings in the bios so you can get a reasonable
o'c out of the CPU within an acceptible price-range since
that is a concern.
I suggest you browse your favorite online sellers to see
which boards they have available and if any meet your needs
(since I have no idea where you might find any particular
board in the UK.
Re: Need suggestion for a new Computer Please.
You could buy an add-in PCI/PCIe EIDE adapter card for your old drives...
You want too much, too cheap, with too much upgradability. DDR3 is not worth
Start with a current P35 chipset MoBo that will give you DDR2 OR DDR3, 1333 FSB,
and 45nm CPU upgradability (Gigabyte P35-DS4 is an example). You'll get
Firewire and 1 Ethernet header, and as good a mix of PCI and PCIe slots as
you'll find on any ATX MoBo. You'll have to forego the on-board VGA for the
450-500 watts should be plenty.