Better graphics then built in i7-4770k (passive cooling)

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Right now i run my graphics from my built in CPU (i7-4770k not o/c) but  
i'm thinking about getting a dedicated video card (passivly cooled), it  
will be sitting in a Asus Z87 Deluxe and powering Benq 32" monitor and  
also running a TV out, so at least a single HDMI and i'm not sure if DVI  
or display port is best.

So does anyone have any idea what my current cpu/graphics would be a  
match for, and also what would you suggest as an upgrade, I'm not a  
massive gamer but i do a wee bit here and there, I have only ever used  
ATI/AMD in the past but open to any and all suggestions and i live in  
the UK if that matters

Re: Better graphics then built in i7-4770k (passive cooling)

Jim wrote:
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4770K = HD Graphics 4600 []

    Intel HD 4600   G3DMark = 727

    ATI 6450 (<$50)           288
    ATI R7 250 ($90)         1414
    ATI R9 280x ($190)       5183

So your built-in is actually better than the cheap cards.
The 6450 is actually four years old or so (rebranded 5450),
so is a pretty sad item to find still for sale.

The next thing to throw in, is passive cooling.

    GT 730  (~$50)            928

Well, that's not helping. If you go passive, the
gaming power is about the same as your existing, and
there's not enough gain. I couldn't find a big-ass
card with passive. There used to be some mid-range
with passive, but I don't see any now. Just low end.

It looks like the marketing folks consider
HTPC to be the only reason to go passive, and
for the rest, you get a fan.

The other factor in a card selection, is I/O type.
You want a connector for your existing monitor, plus
a connector suited to the future.

     1 x HDMI 2.0 (4K @ 60 Hz)
     3 x DisplayPort (4K @ 60 Hz)
     1 x DL-DVI (2560 x 1600)

So those are examples of output ports that will drive
a 4K monitor at the proper refresh rate. There are
some other cards, where the I/O standard is only
suited to 4K @ 30 Hz (good for movies perhaps). The
Dual Link DVI in that example, shows traditional
limits, and may be suited to one of your existing
monitors. If you don't think driving massive numbers
of pixels in games is all that smart, you're welcome
to ignore the issue :-) But at least it's good to see
that some I/O ports have been crafted with fast enough
operation to do a 4K monitor properly, and without
using two connectors for the one monitor.

It looks like $200 will get you something that is
superior to your onboard, and by more than a trivial
multiplier. Such cards help with high res monitors, like
at least HD 1920x1080. If your monitor had a small number
of pixels like mine does, a $200 card would be a waste
(lots of idle capacity). My current card probably
benches lower than your onboard one.

Read the reviews before you buy. On my last build,
I managed to talk myself out of a video card upgrade.
I'd selected a model, then started reading the reviews,
and there were driver problems. So I said "screw it"
and put another $50 card in the box. As a consumer, for
once I want to see cards where everyone gives "thumbs up"
in the reviews. I don't want to have to wait a year
for a stable driver. I'm not that patient.


Re: Better graphics then built in i7-4770k (passive cooling)

On 29/03/2015 18:59, Paul wrote:
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Hi Paul thanks for the reply, the monitor i have (BenQ BL3200PT) has a  
max resolution of 2560 x 1440, the card i was looking at was something  
like a "Geforce GTX 750 Ti Kalmx Silent 2GB GDDR5" this has a score of  

however i have yet to read the reviews so that is my next call, like you  
i don't want to wait ages for something to work, given this has been out  
a while i would expect it to run perfectly out the box (oh if only).


Re: Better graphics then built in i7-4770k (passive cooling)

Jim wrote:
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When I tried a search on the Silent part, I see that Arctic Cooling
is still in business. They have their aftermarket passive cooler
for $38.

( product link shortened)

The site has a list of compatible cards, and the 750 Ti is mentioned.


OK, found a review for your card, and the cooler is *huge*.
It's probably got more surface area than the AC one.
Check the width of the computer case, before you buy that.
Any time the cooler extends above the card like that,
then you have to know whether the computer case is
a "slim" or a "wide".

Palit Geforce GTX 750 Ti Kalmx Silent 2GB GDDR5 Card

One other article mentions it has no power connector
on the end of the card (2x3 or 2x4), implying it is a
50W card (typical design point for slot-powered cards
as a max, around 4.3A at 12V as a design target).


You could select any GTX 750 Ti and check for driver issues.

    dual monitor problem

    This review is from: EVGA 02G-P4-3753-KR G-SYNC Support
    GeForce GTX 750 Ti Superclocked 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI
    Express 3.0 Video Card

    Pros: very silent and energy efficient

    Cons: dual monitor issue
    When connected to two monitors (HDMI and DVI), red horizontal
    lines will appear (possibly due to overclocking?). I had to
    either change the setting to single monitor, or lower the
    graphic setting.

So that's a bit weird.

I'd probably check all the 750 ti cards in the
sales set, and see if there are any other reports like that.

It could be, because that is a Superclock card (Slight overclock),
the power requirements are high enough for the card to have
a 2x3 Aux connector on the end of the card.

And they managed to make this card (same family), without
the aux power input.

You can't see a 2x3 pattern on the end of the card. ?$S640$

And if it does have thermal issues (gets too hot), you can
always mount a fan next to it.

This is how I set up fans, to point at a video card
that needs cooling. The fan on that bracket is probably
an 80mm one. That's on the newest PC, and uses an older
computer case. The CPU heatsink is heavy enough, I put
"stilts" underneath it. Two yellow plastic pipes help
hold up the CPU heatsink.


Re: Better graphics then built in i7-4770k (passive cooling)

Jim wrote:

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If you can find one, look for an AMD HD7750.  They're a few years old,
but you may find one on the secondary market.  HIS and Sapphire both
built passively cooled versions -- iSilence and Ultimate, respectively.
I have one of each, and prefer HIS.  No separate power connectors
needed; <70W draw.

DisplayPort has double the bandwidth of HDMI, so it is preferred for
hi-res monitors.  HDMI is fine for TV.

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