WARNING: Ubee Cable Modem Died (heat related)

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I know this video doesn't proof much, I could make a new one and proof that  
it's dead.

But for now this will have to do and you will have to take my word on it:


^ I will now issue an OFFICIAL WARNING straight from Skybuck Electronics  







I managed to keep my internet running and internet telephone too by:

1. Keep old stuff.

2. Using the old stuff when the new stuff failed.

My conclusion is:

The new ubee cable modem adapter is TOO SMALL,  it gets TOO HOT.

It's a heat-related FAILURE !


The old one is a bit bigger and will hopefully last longer.

I still have to call the ISP to inform them of this DISATER !

And request a new cable modem adapter, plus maybe even a backup cable modem  

Cause it's the only phone I have... but I guess they might not to do that.

Otherwise maybe I will have to buy the cheapest mobile phone with  

Just in case ! ;) However MOBILE PHONES have turned out to be HUGE SPY  
devices and PRIVACY VIOLATION devices, so I do not feel comfortable with  

I also DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE with walking around with such a thing. Cause  
it could kill me in marvelously unforseen ways. Not paying attention BAM and  
your gone.

Nope that not gonna happen to me ! I am sorry, _THATS_ _JUST_ _NOT_ _GONNA_  

I'll let that happen to other doofysus.

They have a doofysys education for it ! ;) =D

  Skydoof ! ;) =D

Re: WARNING: Ubee Cable Modem Died (heat related)

Skybuck Flying wrote:
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Ubee used to be called Ambit. They have a web site.


The power adapters aren't necessarily made at the same production
facilities as the cable modem. The power adapter could be straight from
China, from the lowest bidder.

If you Google the model number of your modem, there may be
reports from other people of power adapter failures. On
some products, these failures are an epidemic. That is
the best way to spot a design or material quality problem.


Re: WARNING: Ubee Cable Modem Died (heat related)

Hi Paul,

Today I called my internet service provider. A man told me I could swap the  
defect power adapter at a local store for free.

I will do/try so later today, I think it's a good idea to have a backup  
power adapter.

I also asked them if they could send me a backup cable modem.

The guy said they had two models available, however maybe the model numbers  
werent completely correct.

A cisco epc 3928 (I think this one might be junk because there is a  
fan/ventilator inside of it I don't want that.)

A ubee evw3221 or evw321 (e for europe I guess).

So I researched the options, and said I'll call back. Then a women phoned me  
if I wanted to do a tv deal, but rejected cause digital tv receiver never  
worked and don't wanna pay extra.

I joked they could send me a new digital receiver, maybe they not too happy  
about that joke.

Then later I decided I wanted the ubee, so I phoned back.

This time I got a guy on the phone... he didn't sound to happy about me  
trying to select what cable modem they would send me lol.

Then he said the only had the cisco's left and lots of em... but ubee out of  
stock and weren't going to purchase them... to bad I like ubee, I never had  
a problem with them until the adapter died.

Maybe in the future they will buy netgear 6300, a weird looking modem, I  
wonder if there is a fan/ventilator inside of it. It seems to stand up.. I  
don't really like the design at first glance, it seems weird.

Anyway I thought about the reason why the power adapter could have failed  
and I think I may have figured it out.

Not so long ago the ISP increased the internet speed. This is probably  
causing the cable modem to process more packets per second.

I just felt the cable modem today, it seems kinda hot. This additional  
processing probably taxed the power adapter so much that it failed.

My guess is the ubee cable modem will soon fail as well because of overheat.  
However winter is coming so it might just make it through the winter.

For now we agreed I would call back in january or somewhere begin 2015 to  
see if there are any good new cable modems available.

Maybe I will only call if my current cable modem fails.

I had the right to ask for a new cable modem because my current cable modem  
does not have wifi capabilities.

So that's why they would send me a new cable modem. So then I could have  
two, a main one and a backup.

I already have some older cable modems lying around.. but I would need  
activation codes, maybe I have those somewhere... but they don't have phone  

That's the main thing though, I don't wanna loose phone capability.

For now I will see how it goes.


Re: WARNING: Ubee Cable Modem Died (heat related)

Skybuck Flying wrote:
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You can measure the power used by the cable modem,
with a Kill-A-Watt meter. There are versions for
Europe, with the right plug hole on the front. By using
such a meter, you can determine the power used when
the modem is idle versus when the modem is busy. My
guess is, the power is close to constant (as the
broadband interface needs to be processed no matter
what traffic is carried on it). But your meter
readings will tell you whether it is true or not.

(Amazon.com product link shortened)

Generally, you won't find fans on things like this.
Fans break easily, and the cheap ones can fail in
as little as one day of operation. Instead, they
try to make circuits which can take the heat.

Keeping the exterior chassis cool, is about the
best you can do for them.


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Why would increased processing show at the power wall socket.

Doesn't really make too much sense to me.

The device could have been created to draw constant power, and simply leak  
away unnecessary power.

For example I'd guess my CPU would use max watt if it's at 80% processing  
power, yet it generates even more heat at 100% processing power.

Without at least the voltage going further up...

Do you believe that each % of cpu usage would translate into noticeable more  
wattage usage ?

If so I'd like to see that proven with a youtube video ;) just to be sure ;)


Re: WARNING: Ubee Cable Modem Died (heat related)

Skybuck Flying wrote:
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If you buy the $20 meter, you can find the answer to all
of these questions you have, by yourself. No Youtube
video needed.

(Amazon.com product link shortened)



Re: WARNING: Ubee Cable Modem Died (heat related)

Paul wrote:
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An example of some meters here.


One of them uses an Analog Devices chip. This helps explain
how the chip can make accurate measurements of power.



Re: WARNING: Ubee Cable Modem Died (heat related)

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  I use these.  They work *real* good.

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It measures my cubox-i4Pro between idle consumption after boot, which is
about 3 Watts...   All the way to full HD rendition with sound and
pumping a full HD HDMI display, which carries it to about midway toward
a whopping 6 Watts.

  It tracks it.  Now, mind you, this is all the way over onto the input
side of a wall wart supply feed to my machine.  I think I might "Silver
Up" that 2 meter DC link.  Maybe even shorten it a bit, and interweave
the lines, instead of what we get...  mini-zip cords.

  I am surprised the feeds from dongles to devices are not getting warm
these days.  I mean hell, it is like 24 or 26 Ga in there.

  Naw... can't be.  It has to carry a couple amps just to feed a USB
standard.  It has to be 22 or even 20 Ga at the very minimum.

 And my mil  TFE sheathed SPC wire will be great for it.  That little
bit of silver will shave a few millivolts off of the drop on that line,
not that there is any to speak of, but every little bit helps in this
low consumption project.

  Yep, gonna shorten and braid that link, and maybe even can the dongle.

  I wonder how many tin hat folks out there have a canned dongle.

  I don't...   yet.

  With a thought toward my current TV show to get into, "The Walking
Dead" (cool show)...  "There be gremlins out there" "They likes gettin'
into airplanes too.  Causes pilots to lose their hair.


  Damned gremlins!

Re: WARNING: Ubee Cable Modem Died (heat related)

On 10/26/2014 1:46 AM, Skybuck Flying wrote:
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Two points... the first is that there is no reason to draw power that is  
not being used by the CPU and other parts.  There is waste heat from the  
inefficiency of the power supply, but they don't draw "constant power"  
regardless of the CPU draw.

The other is that it doesn't matter what part is drawing the power.  All  
power dissipated by components in the box will make the box hotter which  
is what you are feeling when you touch it.



Re: WARNING: Ubee Cable Modem Died (heat related)

On 10/25/2014 8:53 AM, Skybuck Flying wrote:
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If your electronics feels, "kinda hot", you should have no problem what  

experience noticeable failure rates near that temperature.  If it were  

you need to open the box and measure the temperature of the chip making  
the heat.

"Kinda hot" usually means it is working well within its parameters and  
should offer long service.  After all, if you don't want the temperature  
to rise some it will need a fan to get rid of the heat.  By the  

a long life.

As others have pointed out, an increased data rate does not imply that  
the unit will get noticeably hotter.



Re: WARNING: Ubee Cable Modem Died (heat related)

On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 10:21:46 +0200, "Skybuck Flying"

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11:27 minutes for one lousy blown power supply?  You are obsessed. You
also make terrible videos, mumble excessively and don't know how to do
video editing.  The cursing and swearing doesn't improve what is left
of your image.

Take it apart and replace the blown capacitor.  It's a common problem.
This is a similar Netgear power supply:
Replacing the obviously blown cap fixed it.  It's easy, if you
remember to unplug the power supply before soldering.

Jeff Liebermann     jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D    http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann     AE6KS    831-336-2558

Re: WARNING: Ubee Cable Modem Died (heat related)

Gave us:

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  Awww...  man!  You shouldn't have told him that part.

Re: WARNING: Ubee Cable Modem Died (heat related)

jeffl@cruzio.com says...
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Unplug it? that takes the fun out of it..


Re: WARNING: Ubee Cable Modem Died (heat related)

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Hi Skybuck.

I know I'm responding to an old post, please overlook that. I  
recently subscribed to a few of these newsgroups and this thread came  
up. [g]
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I have checked out your video. It's much longer than is needed to  
show us a bad power supply. It's probably just killed a resistor or  
something inside of it. You could probably fix it.

I did find the case you have to be interesting though, and not a bad  
sized monitor either. Icons all over the place too. Looks something  
like my primary setup here, but yours is much much newer.

The swearing and lack of video editing doesn't help you though. I'm a  
but of a cuss like a sailor person myself, but I try not to do that  
in public or in videos that I'm going to give to the public.
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In the states (TN specifically in this case), using Charter, We  
actually have two entirely seperate cable modems. One is tied into  
this network to provide it internet access and the other is tied into  
the telephone lines for the house. The only one with an external  
power adapter is my cisco cable modem; that provides internet for the  
LAN here. The other cable modem has a normal 120volt power cord that  
plugs into the back of it. It has a small internal transformer and  
supporting AC to DC switching circuitry.
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Nah. We have cell phones too. I've never depended on voice over IP  
for critical things.
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Just be sure it provides the proper voltage, amperage, and is the  
correct polarity. You don't want the previous one to be positive on  
the tip and the next one to be negative on the tip. Your device won't  
appreciate that.
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Which is what usually kills electronics. ;p
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Physical size doesn't guarantee longevity. The internal components  
and circuit designs do.
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Why? Just ask for another cable modem, it'll come with another power  
supply if it needs it, or a cable to plug it directly into your  
220volt (You aren't from the states and your power plug isn't blade  
style, but round prong, so I'm assuming your 220volt on your outlets.  
We're 110-120volt here).

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Your computer if improperly used is no different. [g]
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How so? I suppose if the battery pack exploded and you had it to your  
head at the time, and the explosion was violent, it could possibly..  
injure or kill you... but, I haven't actually observed this nor have  
I read about it happening from reliable sources.

Radio waves probably aren't exactly beneficial to be so close to your  
head either, but.. I don't have anything solid either way on that.
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I really have trouble understanding you at times. It could just be a  
language barrier issue though.

My truck does not leak. It's just marking its territory!  

Re: WARNING: Ubee Cable Modem Died (heat related)

On 09-Dec-14 7:02 AM, Dustin wrote:
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Skybuck is a persistent troll.  Most of us only see him when someone  
replies to one of his posts.

Re: WARNING: Ubee Cable Modem Died (heat related)

Skybuck is a persistent troll. Most of us only see him when someone  
replies to one of his posts.

Just cut out my name "Skybuck Flying" and he'll never know and nag ! LOL.

  Skybuck =D

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