new desktop availble with ssd drive installed as boot drive?

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Would anyone know of Desktop computer currently being marketed that
has a ssd hard drive installed that would be used as the boot
drive.?   I know there are ssd drives available that can be purchased
separately, and also know of laptop computers that come with ssd
drives already installed, but I have searched without success for a
desktop with ssd drive.
Any and all info welcomed!  Aaron

Re: new desktop availble with ssd drive installed as boot drive?

aaronep@pacbell.net wrote:
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Three of the four Alienware desktops offer such an option. It
costs $1000. They offer the SSDs set up in RAID 0. 512GB
total capacity.

http://www.alienware.com/Landings/desktops.aspx

If you talk to a local computer store, see what they have
to offer.

If you bought an ordinary computer, bought an SSD, bought a
copy of Windows 7, I'm sure a local computer shop could take
care of the details for you. And with less profit margin
than Alienware.

    Paul


Re: new desktop availble with ssd drive installed as boot drive?

Paul wrote:
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I've been considering booting from a usb flash drive, for convenience,
not speed.
It's not as simple as one might think.  You can't just plug one in.
The things wear out of you don't do anything to help.

If  you have someone else do it, make sure they know what they're doing.
Presumably, Alienware do...presumably...

Here's a start:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Write_Filter

I'm about to start some experiments, so if anyone has more info on the
subject, I'd like to hear it.

Re: new desktop availble with ssd drive installed as boot drive?

mike wrote:
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To translate your premise a bit:

1) Devices work when you plug them in. I'm not aware of
    USB flash sticks or SATA SSDs absolutely refusing to work.
    They work right away. If you know next to nothing about
    computers, you can get them to work.

2) The user can do things to prolong the service life of the SSD drive.
    Of the many optimizations published on the Internet, some are
    downright silly and others make sense (have moderate benefit, no cost).

3) Depending on the OS used, some of the items in (2) are taken
    care of by the OS. Windows 7 is "SSD aware", and at least knows
    it should not be running the defragmenter on them. And
    Windows 7 seems to align the partition on the SSD (to sector 2048).

You can read more about EWF here. This doesn't sound entirely bulletproof,
but I didn't read the whole thread.

http://www.mp3car.com/winnt-based/140081-ewf-on-windows-7-32-bit-or-64-bit-enhanced-write-filter.html

As a consequence of (1), a manufacturer of computers can do practically
anything they want. They can ship the system with zero optimizations
if they want. There is nothing preventing them from doing it. Alienware
ships a RAID-0 configuration...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM

    "The TRIM command does not work on RAID volumes."

Optimization is a semi-complex subject, at least in terms of
gathering all the tricks together in a list, evaluating which
ones are silly, and implementing the rest. But if you don't
want to, you can always just plug it in and use it.

The importance of "polishing" your purchase, can be affected
a bit by the type of flash used. SLC flash chips have higher write
cycle limits than MLC. And MLC chip technology is heading in
the wrong direction, with last year's chips doing 5000 write
cycles, and this year's chips doing 3000 write cycles. If you
wish to be a "dumb" SSD user, then owning an SLC drive
could help give you a longer service life. SLC technology is
preferred in Enterprise class drives (with elevated pricing).

HTH,
      Paul

Re: new desktop availble with ssd drive installed as boot drive?

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There are a few computers out with this configuration now. Typically they
come with a fast SSD for the system drive and a larger 7200 drive for the
data. Boot times from SSD are roughly half that of a HD. The decent, newer
SSD models are definitely faster than HDs, but its not as much as you might
think - for some tests the Samsung F3 (or is it T3, I forget) is faster than
the fast SSDs and the price per GB is significantly higher.



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