MSI K8N Neo4 Plat/X2 4400 finally stable!

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Hey all,

I post this more for informational purposes, in case anyone else runs across
the same thing. I solved my stability problems by getting rid of the Nvidia
IDE SW driver.

Couple of months ago, I did a new system build .
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum mb
Athlon X2 4400+ processor
2 gb Corsair XMS LL ddr ram ( 2ea 1gb) running in dual channel
Saphire Radeon X850XT 256 mb PCIe video card
2 ea WD 250 gb Sata hard drives
SB Audigy2 ZS soundcard

Some of you may recall, I was getting system lockups fairly frequently. I
first suspected it might be my power supply, as it was a 20 pin plugged into
a 24 pin connector ( however, according to the msi manual, this should be
fine). I know it is an Antec True Power, over 500 watt. Several of you
responded that it was not likely the power supply.

I had all my hardware drivers current.  I would not get any errors reported
in event viewer. I would be working along, when all of a sudden the system
would just lock up, and I would have to power off holding the power switch
in for the required 5 seconds or so.  Oftentimes, upon booting back up,
chkdsk would run. Interestingly, the lockups would usually happen while
using OE reading newsgroups, Outlook reading emails, or Firefox or IE
viewing webpages. It never did freeze up on me playing games, though I do
much more of the previous than the latter.

I knew it was not a heat problem, as my cpu and system temps remained pretty

I had also downloaded and installed the latest Nvidia Nforce mb drivers from
Nvidia, with the same result. I had installed the Nvidia IDE SW drivers from
the get go, both with the mb driver cd originally, and with the Nvidia
Nforce drivers from Nvidia's website.

Well, earlier this week, I uninstalled the Nvidia Nforce mb drivers
completely. I then used Driver Cleaner Pro to remove any remnants of Nforce
drivers. I re-installed the Nforce drivers, except this time, I elected to
NOT install the Nvidia IDE SW driver.  I had noticed, in one of the Windows
XP forums, a couple of folks had reported lockups while browsing the web,
that they attributed to this Nvidia IDE SW driver, that went away when they
got rid of it, so I thought I would give it a try...

Voila, problem appears to be solved! System is now rock solid and stable!
Finally!! I am one happy camper!

For whatever reason, on my system, that Nvidia IDE SW driver created
problems! My system would freeze, almost daily, at least once. I got rid of
it, and now, it is happily purring along...

Hopefully, this may help someone else that happens to run into the same

Don Burnette

Re: MSI K8N Neo4 Plat/X2 4400 finally stable!

On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:16:41 -0500, "Don Burnette"

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Its been claimed since the nforce2 that the nvidia IDE drivers caused
problems by some.  However others claim this isnt true and that they
have no problems. This claim is still made with the nforce4 in
relation to a small group (me included) that seems to suffer from data
corruption and lockup problems. However I blame it on the nforce4 chip
and possible cooling problems.

Anyway I got my RMA replacement from Chaintech and everything seems OK
so far. Its a Nforce4 ultra board.

They sent me what appears to be a refurb board that was laying around.
It looks in general new but you can see where the ports are which
stick out of the PC case its covered with dust and some grime. The
other parts of the board look new though you can see small signs of
wear like on the jumpers etc which seem slightly worn.

The date on the board say Aprl of last year so its newer than the RMAd
board I sent back.

Chaintech did a decent job --- relatively quick response, replaced the
board and sent it back within a week but they sent it back via POST
OFFICE parcel post.  Now priority mail via POST OFFICE is fine. I sent
it there that way and used it quite often and it takes 3-5 days ,
usually 3-4 days. Parcel post ---- you dont know where it is or how
long its going to take. I got varying responses from 2-4 weeks ! I
finally complained after 2.5 weeks of waiting for it after it was sent
back. They finally did a investigation and told me 4 weeks ! Luckily
though complaining seems to have done the trick cause I got 2 days
later instead of the 4 weeks they claimed.

Overall still took about 1 month to RMA the board because of the
parcel post delay.

Re: MSI K8N Neo4 Plat/X2 4400 finally stable!

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hey man i just wanted to say thank you for posting this , i was also having
the same problem with my k8n , i uninstalled the ide driver and it works
stable now .
thanks again

Re: MSI K8N Neo4 Plat/X2 4400 finally stable!

I also had to uninstall my ide driver from my gigabyte board.

GA-K8NSC-939 nForce3, A64 3500+, Stock Cooler IdleTemp 28 C
2 Gb Dual Channel PC3200 OCZ Platinum 2-3-2-5 CL2.5
ATI All-in-Wonder 9600XT
Moniter-Viewsonic A91f 19in
PATA WD 80+120 Gb HD 8mb buffers
Pioneer 110D+Liteon 1693S Dual Layer burner
Logitech MX 310 Optical Mouse
Microsoft Sidewinder Precision 2 Joystick
Microsoft ergonomic keyboard
Thermaltake Midtower with noname 350 Watt PSU
Cheap computer speakers with Sennheiser HD 477 Headphones

3DMark 05 Free Scores- Overall 1815,  Cpu 4535
Max Performance Graphic Settings, 1024X768

Games I'm Playing-
Battlezone II, IL-2 Sturmovick Series
Empire Earth 2, Need For Speed: Underground 2,
Civ IV

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