Looking for a good inkjet

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My venerable HP855c is finally starting to show some problems. As you
can see, it's been a long time since I shopped for a printer. What I've
noticed about newer printers is that replacing cartridges can be very
expensive. I would like to find a non-all-in-one printer within the
$50-$140 price range which gives the best printout and is the least
expensive with consumables (print cartridges AND print heads, if not a
part of the cartridge.)

I've looked a several websites which have reviews of printers, but they
never discuss the cost per page anymore or for the most part, whether or
not the ink is less expensive to buy.

Does anybody know of a good website where inkjet printers are reviewed
OR can anybody recommend a good, current printer?

TIA

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John Corliss

Re: Looking for a good inkjet

On 7/31/2011 7:46 PM, John Corliss wrote:
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Google for 'inkjet cost-per-page' and take your choice. I've heard that
Kodak printers have relatively reasonable consumables but can't say from
experience.

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On 7/31/2011 7:19 PM, John McGaw wrote:
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I would still stay away from any Lexmark printers until they reverse
their latest firmware update that blocks all 3rd party print cartridges
from being used.

They hide this in their printer update program and don't disclose the
3rd party cartridge blocking until the update has already updated your
printers firmware.  At present there is no method of reversing the
"update" after it is installed into the printer.

Here is just one of the multitude of links describing Lexmark's method
of locking people into using just their own brand of cartridges and at
the price they choose to charge you.

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/inkjet-printers/1282069/lexmark-firmware-update-blocks-third-party-carts

Where I live many corporate offices have removed Lexmark products from
their approved list of vendors.  Many are actively replacing Lexmark
printers with other brands due to the cost of being locked into using
only Lexmark brand printer cartridges once someone is tricked into
upgrading the firmware with the "Lexmark brand or die" firmware update.

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Thanks for the warning!

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John Corliss

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Unless you need to print in color, buy a laser printer.  I bought a
Canon that does color scanning for 135 bucks.  It even has a separate
one at a time envelope feeder.


Re: Looking for a good inkjet

On 07/31/2011 07:46 PM, John Corliss wrote:
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In your price range:

I have a Kodak 5250 but its an 'all in one' including WIFI reception (it
doesn't distribute WIFI itself its just capable of receiving print jobs
from laptops relayed via your home WIFI setup). In comparison to other
brands ink for it is very reasonable.

Just don't use the 'all in one' features if you don't need them. For
example I don't know if the scanning feature works I have never had a
need for it. The flatbed copier works well though and is handy to have
at home.

This may not be important to you but Linux has a driver for it so you
aren't 'stuck' with Windows.

John

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John Corliss wrote:
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Please note that I very specifically asked for info about a
*non-all-in-one* printer. I do NOT need another scanner, I do NOT need a
FAX, I only want a printer. Also, I want to be able to print in color
and cannot afford the expensive color drums which color laser printers
require.

TIA.

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John Corliss

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You are likely to find most or all inkjets nowadays have a
scanning function, like it or not.

Reliable 3d party ink cartridges may be your most useful guide.
I bought Brother 330 and 540 multifunction printers for about
$60 each (discounted when discontinued.)  Both use LC51
cartridges and print well with carts. by other manufacturers.

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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)



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Don Phillipson wrote:
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I disagree. There are still plenty of personal printers available which
are not all-in-one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007661%20600011389&IsNodeId=1&name=Personal

http://www.officedepot.com/a/browse/inkjet-printers/N=5+509855 /;jsessionid=00008gucBBDvbq83jFrSD_P6rIo:13ddq0tfm

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Category/guidedSearch.asp?CatId=21&sel=Detail%3B152_1263_2731_2731,Detail%3B152_652_6458_6458

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I've owned a Brother laser printer in the past and have also heard good
things about newer Brother products.

However, the reason I don't want a multifunction printer is because I
have an excellent Canon scanner which I am very pleased with. I don't
want to have two scanners attacked to my computer and have to install
all the necessary garbage that comes with most all-in-ones.

Thanks for your input.

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John Corliss

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On 08/01/2011 06:24 AM, John Corliss wrote:
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Its unlikely you will find what you want. Print only inkjets are pretty
much given away because they are junk and the profit is in the ink.
Kodak as I said earlier is the most economical inkjet as far as consumables.

John


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Easy to Refill With Simple Know How
Pros: This printer does a decent job of everyday printing and good quality
photo work. What makes it more unique to the many other printers around is
that it's one of the few left that will allow use of spongeless- see through
cartridges and their very easy refilling at the cost of about
$1.25/cartridge along with a chip resetter that is easily obtainable.
Additionally, if one wishes to refill the OEM cartridges that come with the
printer and use bulk ink there is a cheap kit to allow refilling sold by
www.inksupply.com , which they developed to do just that. It is unfortunate
that every major printer company has made it difficult to recycle cartridges
by refilling and are adding tons of plastic to the landfills, wasting
resources by necessitating new cartridges to be made and saddling the high
cost of printing onto the consumer. The C88+ and a few other Epsons that use
this particular size cartridge make it viable to recycle, save money and
cheap for the consumer to run a printer.

Cons: The cartridges use chips, which is Epson's way impediment to allowing
the consumer to refill a cartridge. Fortunately a chip resetter easily
circumvents that annoyance.

Other Thoughts: Although I am hopeful that Newegg will publish this I am
dubious that it will be listed on the reviews as it knocks the status quo of
how printer manufacturers make their profit. Still, I think it's worth
attempting to make a point here on behalf of the environment and the
consumer when it's the right thing to do and business has gone too far in
the other direction


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Jan Alter
bearpuf@verizon.net
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Hi,

    I wrote this review for Newegg.com for an Epson C88+ that is still
widely available several years ago They still have it for sale for about $90
. It's probably the cheapest single function inkjet to run these days if you
are OK to refill your own cartridges.

Easy to Refill With Simple Know How
Pros: This printer does a decent job of everyday printing and good quality
photo work. What makes it more unique to the many other printers around is
that it's one of the few left that will allow use of spongeless- see through
cartridges and their very easy refilling at the cost of about
$1.25/cartridge along with a chip resetter that is easily obtainable.
Additionally, if one wishes to refill the OEM cartridges that come with the
printer and use bulk ink there is a cheap kit to allow refilling sold by
www.inksupply.com , which they developed to do just that. It is unfortunate
that every major printer company has made it difficult to recycle cartridges
by refilling and are adding tons of plastic to the landfills, wasting
resources by necessitating new cartridges to be made and saddling the high
cost of printing onto the consumer. The C88+ and a few other Epsons that use
this particular size cartridge make it viable to recycle, save money and
cheap for the consumer to run a printer.

Cons: The cartridges use chips, which is Epson's way impediment to allowing
the consumer to refill a cartridge. Fortunately a chip resetter easily
circumvents that annoyance.

Other Thoughts: Although I am hopeful that Newegg will publish this I am
dubious that it will be listed on the reviews as it knocks the status quo of
how printer manufacturers make their profit. Still, I think it's worth
attempting to make a point here on behalf of the environment and the
consumer when it's the right thing to do and business has gone too far in
the other direction


--
Jan Alter
bearpuf@verizon.net



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Our old Hp printer died last week, so I just went through this
decision process. We (wife and I) also have two scanners and
need another one like a hole in the head. But I gradually homed
in on a Hp 2050 deskjet "all in one" and purchased one from our
local Walmart for $39 plus tax (last Friday). Actually, I'm pleased
with the scanner function since it's far easier to use (and does a
beautiful job) than the old scanners we have.  I'm also pleased with
the peformance and options of its printer. It's better than my old Hp
that cost me $100 several years back. The black-only-ink-saving-
high-speed option is very fast for plain text printing.

It comes with both ink cartidges (so just buy a new printer when you
run out of ink :)) but lacks the USB cable. The #61 cartridges are
much cheaper than the cartridges for my old dead printer. It doesn't
have wireless, BTW.

So far so good.

Art




  

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John, I bought a Canon Pixma i4500 series a couple years ago, and I swear by
this thing.  The ink may not meet your requirements as it has 5 cartridges,
but they don't run out at the same time and are readily available locally (a
big thing for me since I live in a rural area).  Print quality is
phenomenal, and when I want to print out a picture (not often), I get
beautiful copies.  I bought it mainly because school pictures are so darn
expensive nowadays and I was able to make my own, but it's paid for itself
over and over.  I also have a 3-in-1 that I use for scanning, but it has no
ink in it.


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Thip wrote:
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You can greatly reduce the cost by buying the ink and filling it into
the cartridges after they are exhausted. Places like Tesco sometimes
sells the ink at great prices.

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.... and I have a Canon Pixma MP 170 and it is the best one I have ever
had. It is almost 6 years old now and still printing and scanning.

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