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getting users to logoff Computerguy 01-14-2008
Posted by Computerguy on January 14, 2008, 11:47 am
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Is there any security threat to the following ?
- windows xp2 is locked (have to enter Ctrl+Alt+Del)
- servers setup to disconnect users at 10:00 PM

For electricity savings reasons we are starting to request users
logoff and shutdown at the end of the day. Right now we have users
who forget to logoff, but their PC will go to the Windows XP locked
screen. If we are in the wrong forum please let us know to repost.
Thanks.

Posted by Mathieu CHATEAU on January 14, 2008, 1:45 pm
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Hello,

this is not really a security issue, but more a functionnal issue.
Roaming profile won't get updated, as it is updated at logoff.

We use a vbscript to reboot stations, which force logoff on the way.
You may change the code to only logoff without shutting down the pc
Are you intereseted in ?

--
Cordialement,
Mathieu CHATEAU
English blog: http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com
French blog: http://www.lotp.fr


> Is there any security threat to the following ?
> - windows xp2 is locked (have to enter Ctrl+Alt+Del)
> - servers setup to disconnect users at 10:00 PM
>
> For electricity savings reasons we are starting to request users
> logoff and shutdown at the end of the day. Right now we have users
> who forget to logoff, but their PC will go to the Windows XP locked
> screen. If we are in the wrong forum please let us know to repost.
> Thanks.


Posted by Computerguy on January 14, 2008, 2:02 pm
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> Hello,
>
> this is not really a security issue, but more a functionnal issue.
> Roaming profile won't get updated, as it is updated at logoff.
>
> We use a vbscript to reboot stations, which force logoff on the way.
> You may change the code to only logoff without shutting down the pc
> Are you intereseted in ?
>
> --
> Cordialement,
> Mathieu CHATEAU
> English blog:http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com
> French blog:http://www.lotp.fr
>
>
>
>
>
> > Is there any security threat to the following ?
> > =A0 - windows xp2 is locked (have to enter Ctrl+Alt+Del)
> > =A0 - servers setup to disconnect users at 10:00 PM
>
> > For electricity savings reasons we are starting to request users
> > logoff and shutdown at the end of the day. =A0Right now we have users
> > who forget to logoff, but their PC will go to the Windows XP locked
> > screen. =A0If we are in the wrong forum please let us know to repost.
> > Thanks.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Mr. Chateau,

We are interested in anything to get staff to exit the network. I
almost forget we have files synching at logoff to their directory and
if they never logoff..... We have Altiris and tried assigning a job
to restart at 10:00 PM, but when users do shutdown they would come in
the next day and after powering on the computer they are greeted by
the same shutdown job that powers off their computer. At first we
were looking for software. We would welcome a script to somehow
remove users from the network at a certain time.

Posted by Al Dunbar on January 15, 2008, 2:04 am
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> Hello,
>
> this is not really a security issue, but more a functionnal issue.
> Roaming profile won't get updated, as it is updated at logoff.
>
> We use a vbscript to reboot stations, which force logoff on the way.
> You may change the code to only logoff without shutting down the pc
> Are you intereseted in ?
>
> --
> Cordialement,
> Mathieu CHATEAU
> English blog:http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com
> French blog:http://www.lotp.fr
>
>
>
>
>
> > Is there any security threat to the following ?
> > - windows xp2 is locked (have to enter Ctrl+Alt+Del)
> > - servers setup to disconnect users at 10:00 PM
>
> > For electricity savings reasons we are starting to request users
> > logoff and shutdown at the end of the day. Right now we have users
> > who forget to logoff, but their PC will go to the Windows XP locked
> > screen. If we are in the wrong forum please let us know to repost.
> > Thanks.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Mr. Chateau,

We are interested in anything to get staff to exit the network. I
almost forget we have files synching at logoff to their directory and
if they never logoff..... We have Altiris and tried assigning a job
to restart at 10:00 PM, but when users do shutdown they would come in
the next day and after powering on the computer they are greeted by
the same shutdown job that powers off their computer. At first we
were looking for software. We would welcome a script to somehow
remove users from the network at a certain time.

===> If you don't get a scripted solution to force users to do what company
policy tells them they should do, you could run a job at 10pm that checks to
see which workstations are logged on. 'net view' will do this, but the
output might need to be filtered to include only workstations at your
location. A further step would be to also determine who is logged in at each
workstation - a bit trickier but doable.

Then for the first week or two you send each person logged in (or the owners
of the powered on computers) an email reminding them of the company policy,
and that a report of powered on workstations/logged in users will be sent to
the president (or whomever).

/Al



Posted by Computerguy on January 15, 2008, 9:18 am
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello,
>
> > this is not really a security issue, but more a functionnal issue.
> > Roaming profile won't get updated, as it is updated at logoff.
>
> > We use a vbscript to reboot stations, which force logoff on the way.
> > You may change the code to only logoff without shutting down the pc
> > Are you intereseted in ?
>
> > --
> > Cordialement,
> > Mathieu CHATEAU
> > English blog:http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com
> > French blog:http://www.lotp.fr
>
>

>
> > > Is there any security threat to the following ?
> > > - windows xp2 is locked (have to enter Ctrl+Alt+Del)
> > > - servers setup to disconnect users at 10:00 PM
>
> > > For electricity savings reasons we are starting to request users
> > > logoff and shutdown at the end of the day. Right now we have users
> > > who forget to logoff, but their PC will go to the Windows XP locked
> > > screen. If we are in the wrong forum please let us know to repost.
> > > Thanks.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Mr. Chateau,
>
> =A0 =A0We are interested in anything to get staff to exit the network. =A0=
I
> almost forget we have files synching at logoff to their directory and
> if they never logoff..... =A0 We have Altiris and tried assigning a job
> to restart at 10:00 PM, but when users do shutdown they would come in
> the next day and after powering on the computer they are greeted by
> the same shutdown job that powers off their computer. =A0At first we
> were looking for software. =A0We would welcome a script to somehow
> remove users from the network at a certain time.
>
> =3D=3D=3D> If you don't get a scripted solution to force users to do what =
company
> policy tells them they should do, you could run a job at 10pm that checks =
to
> see which workstations are logged on. 'net view' will do this, but the
> output might need to be filtered to include only workstations at your
> location. A further step would be to also determine who is logged in at ea=
ch
> workstation - a bit trickier but doable.
>
> Then for the first week or two you send each person logged in (or the owne=
rs
> of the powered on computers) an email reminding them of the company policy=
,
> and that a report of powered on workstations/logged in users will be sent =
to
> the president (or whomever).
>
> /Al- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Mr. Dunbar,

Users cannot login before 6:00 AM. I come in a couple times a week
early to do things (best time is to get things done when there is no
one on the network). We can see the users still logged in and send an
email to the supervisors. We have been doing this for 2 years and we
have the same 10 to 15 people who repeat.

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