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downloading fonts in html vila 10-30-2006
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Posted by vila on October 30, 2006, 10:14 am
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Hi,

I am working on an intranet product based on html.
I want to use a special font that is not installed on most users PCs.
Is there a way of offering to down load a font? Most users will be
using Internet Explorer.

Francis


Posted by David E. Ross on October 30, 2006, 11:03 am
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vila@systar.fr wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am working on an intranet product based on html.
> I want to use a special font that is not installed on most users PCs.
> Is there a way of offering to down load a font? Most users will be
> using Internet Explorer.
>
> Francis
>

(The following addresses your issue with respect to the Internet. See
the bottom with respect to your intranet.)

*** Start Rant ***

You can provide a link on your Web site through which users can download
the font. Be sure that you have versions for PCs (Windows), Macs, and
Unix. Unless this is a font you created, also be sure you are not
violating a copyright or license.

I once encountered a Web page that used an unusual font and had such a
link. The page's owner had created the font himself. I still have the
font, but the Web site is now defunct. Thus, I can't direct you to his
site to see how he presented the font.

You might also wait until the Web Fonts specification for CSS3 is
finalized. This would allow you to provide the font temporarily to
visitors to your page, seamlessly embedded within the page. Again, you
must be sure the font does not have a restricted license that prohibits
embedding. Also, you must be prepared to wait; I don't expect this
specification to be finalized any time soon. There has been no activity
to advance it in four years. Although the comment period supposedly
closed 30 August 2002, comments were still being made the middle of this
year.

In the meantime, while some browser developers have implemented their
own proprietary capability for embedding fonts in Web pages, others are
waiting until W3C publishes its final recommendation on Web Fonts. You
might go with the proprietary implementation, but anyone in your
audience using a different browser will not see your desired font.

*** End Rant ***

Since you want to restrict this to an intranet, I must assume that
everyone seeing the page is within the same organization. Have your
system administrator install your desired font in all the computers in
the intranet. If the system -- intranet and individual computers -- is
properly configured, your system administrator should be able to do this
remotely without the users even knowing what happened.

--

David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Concerned about someone (e.g., Pres. Bush) snooping
into your E-mail? Use PGP.
See my <http://www.rossde.com/PGP/>

Posted by vila on October 30, 2006, 12:09 pm
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David E. Ross wrote:
> vila@systar.fr wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am working on an intranet product based on html.
> > I want to use a special font that is not installed on most users PCs.
> > Is there a way of offering to down load a font? Most users will be
> > using Internet Explorer.
> >
> > Francis
> >
>
> (The following addresses your issue with respect to the Internet. See
> the bottom with respect to your intranet.)
>
> *** Start Rant ***
>
> You can provide a link on your Web site through which users can download
> the font. Be sure that you have versions for PCs (Windows), Macs, and
> Unix. Unless this is a font you created, also be sure you are not
> violating a copyright or license.
>
> I once encountered a Web page that used an unusual font and had such a
> link. The page's owner had created the font himself. I still have the
> font, but the Web site is now defunct. Thus, I can't direct you to his
> site to see how he presented the font.
>
> You might also wait until the Web Fonts specification for CSS3 is
> finalized. This would allow you to provide the font temporarily to
> visitors to your page, seamlessly embedded within the page. Again, you
> must be sure the font does not have a restricted license that prohibits
> embedding. Also, you must be prepared to wait; I don't expect this
> specification to be finalized any time soon. There has been no activity
> to advance it in four years. Although the comment period supposedly
> closed 30 August 2002, comments were still being made the middle of this
> year.
>
> In the meantime, while some browser developers have implemented their
> own proprietary capability for embedding fonts in Web pages, others are
> waiting until W3C publishes its final recommendation on Web Fonts. You
> might go with the proprietary implementation, but anyone in your
> audience using a different browser will not see your desired font.
>
> *** End Rant ***
>
> Since you want to restrict this to an intranet, I must assume that
> everyone seeing the page is within the same organization. Have your
> system administrator install your desired font in all the computers in
> the intranet. If the system -- intranet and individual computers -- is
> properly configured, your system administrator should be able to do this
> remotely without the users even knowing what happened.
>
> --
>
> David E. Ross
> <http://www.rossde.com/>
>
> Concerned about someone (e.g., Pres. Bush) snooping
> into your E-mail? Use PGP.
> See my <http://www.rossde.com/PGP/>

Thank you for your response. As it happens, I am neither on the www nor
on a local intranet where I can ask the system administrator to do
something. I am working on products that clients can install on their
own intranet. The product my company sells is guaranteed to work on
Internet Explorer. Anyway if users don't have the font it will not
prevent them from reading the page.
The font I want to install is one where digits appear looking like
7-bar displays (as in pocket calculators).


Posted by David E. Ross on October 31, 2006, 1:48 am
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vila@systar.fr wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> vila@systar.fr wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am working on an intranet product based on html.
>>> I want to use a special font that is not installed on most users PCs.
>>> Is there a way of offering to down load a font? Most users will be
>>> using Internet Explorer.
>>>
>>> Francis
>>>
>> (The following addresses your issue with respect to the Internet. See
>> the bottom with respect to your intranet.)
>>
>> *** Start Rant ***
>>
>> You can provide a link on your Web site through which users can download
>> the font. Be sure that you have versions for PCs (Windows), Macs, and
>> Unix. Unless this is a font you created, also be sure you are not
>> violating a copyright or license.
>>
>> I once encountered a Web page that used an unusual font and had such a
>> link. The page's owner had created the font himself. I still have the
>> font, but the Web site is now defunct. Thus, I can't direct you to his
>> site to see how he presented the font.
>>
>> You might also wait until the Web Fonts specification for CSS3 is
>> finalized. This would allow you to provide the font temporarily to
>> visitors to your page, seamlessly embedded within the page. Again, you
>> must be sure the font does not have a restricted license that prohibits
>> embedding. Also, you must be prepared to wait; I don't expect this
>> specification to be finalized any time soon. There has been no activity
>> to advance it in four years. Although the comment period supposedly
>> closed 30 August 2002, comments were still being made the middle of this
>> year.
>>
>> In the meantime, while some browser developers have implemented their
>> own proprietary capability for embedding fonts in Web pages, others are
>> waiting until W3C publishes its final recommendation on Web Fonts. You
>> might go with the proprietary implementation, but anyone in your
>> audience using a different browser will not see your desired font.
>>
>> *** End Rant ***
>>
>> Since you want to restrict this to an intranet, I must assume that
>> everyone seeing the page is within the same organization. Have your
>> system administrator install your desired font in all the computers in
>> the intranet. If the system -- intranet and individual computers -- is
>> properly configured, your system administrator should be able to do this
>> remotely without the users even knowing what happened.
>>
>> --
>>
>> David E. Ross
>> <http://www.rossde.com/>
>>
>> Concerned about someone (e.g., Pres. Bush) snooping
>> into your E-mail? Use PGP.
>> See my <http://www.rossde.com/PGP/>
>
> Thank you for your response. As it happens, I am neither on the www nor
> on a local intranet where I can ask the system administrator to do
> something. I am working on products that clients can install on their
> own intranet. The product my company sells is guaranteed to work on
> Internet Explorer. Anyway if users don't have the font it will not
> prevent them from reading the page.
> The font I want to install is one where digits appear looking like
> 7-bar displays (as in pocket calculators).
>

Package the font with your product. Any intranet should have a system
administrator who can handle distributing the font.

Building a Web-based product that is targeted to IE is tying your
business to a fading star. See the charts and related discussion at my
<http://www.rossde.com/viewing_site.html>, starting with the heading
"Why?".

--

David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Concerned about someone (e.g., Pres. Bush) snooping
into your E-mail? Use PGP.
See my <http://www.rossde.com/PGP/>

Posted by Stan Brown on October 30, 2006, 10:54 pm
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Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:03:11 -0800 from David E. Ross
> I once encountered a Web page that used an unusual font and had such a
> link. The page's owner had created the font himself. I still have the
> font, but the Web site is now defunct. Thus, I can't direct you to his
> site to see how he presented the font.

http://www.archive.org doesn't have it?

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2.1 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Why We Won't Help You:
http://diveintomark.org/archives/2003/05/05/why_we_wont_help_you

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