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development for Moto Q? Steve 09-11-2007
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Posted by Steve on September 11, 2007, 4:32 pm
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Hi. I'm a long-time desktop developer about to (probably) buy a Motorola Q9m,
which runs Mobile 6. I'm interested in doing some development work for
Windows Mobile in Visual Studio 2005. (I saw a cool demo which ran a model
of a smartphone in VS, allowing you to run/debug your app in it.)

I've never owned a smartphone before, so I wanted to find out if phones like
the Q9m, which is made just for Verizon and includes some proprietary Verizon
software, is "locked down" in any way that would limit what software I could
write/install for it?

I'd hate to get it only to find out that I cant install an app that I've
built myself.

Anyone out there built anything for it's predecessor, the Motorola Q? Any
issues?

Any comments are appreciated.
Thanks
S

Posted by dbgrick on September 12, 2007, 9:22 am
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I'm contracting for a company that does development on many different
devices. The Motorola Q has some quirks such as the navigation keys and back
key don't work exactly the same as other devices. I also had to get a cab
certificate exe from verizon to allow me to debug on the device. AT&T allows
you to run the microsoft cert cab and debug directly. I've tested several
device and have been the most happy with the AT&T 8525.

Rick D.
Contractor

"Steve" wrote:

> Hi. I'm a long-time desktop developer about to (probably) buy a Motorola Q9m,
> which runs Mobile 6. I'm interested in doing some development work for
> Windows Mobile in Visual Studio 2005. (I saw a cool demo which ran a model
> of a smartphone in VS, allowing you to run/debug your app in it.)
>
> I've never owned a smartphone before, so I wanted to find out if phones like
> the Q9m, which is made just for Verizon and includes some proprietary Verizon
> software, is "locked down" in any way that would limit what software I could
> write/install for it?
>
> I'd hate to get it only to find out that I cant install an app that I've
> built myself.
>
> Anyone out there built anything for it's predecessor, the Motorola Q? Any
> issues?
>
> Any comments are appreciated.
> Thanks
> S

Posted by Steve on September 12, 2007, 1:34 pm
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Thanks for the info. Most of my dev will be hobby so I can do my debuggind
Visual Studio.
Do you use Visual Studio 05 and/or .NET to develop for the Moblie OS?

Thanks.
S

"dbgrick" wrote:

> I'm contracting for a company that does development on many different
> devices. The Motorola Q has some quirks such as the navigation keys and back
> key don't work exactly the same as other devices. I also had to get a cab
> certificate exe from verizon to allow me to debug on the device. AT&T allows
> you to run the microsoft cert cab and debug directly. I've tested several
> device and have been the most happy with the AT&T 8525.
>
> Rick D.
> Contractor
>
> "Steve" wrote:
>
> > Hi. I'm a long-time desktop developer about to (probably) buy a Motorola
Q9m,
> > which runs Mobile 6. I'm interested in doing some development work for
> > Windows Mobile in Visual Studio 2005. (I saw a cool demo which ran a model
> > of a smartphone in VS, allowing you to run/debug your app in it.)
> >
> > I've never owned a smartphone before, so I wanted to find out if phones like
> > the Q9m, which is made just for Verizon and includes some proprietary
Verizon
> > software, is "locked down" in any way that would limit what software I could
> > write/install for it?
> >
> > I'd hate to get it only to find out that I cant install an app that I've
> > built myself.
> >
> > Anyone out there built anything for it's predecessor, the Motorola Q? Any
> > issues?
> >
> > Any comments are appreciated.
> > Thanks
> > S

Posted by John Raven on September 12, 2007, 1:39 pm
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Was going to start doing some work on the Moto Q (on Verizon).
Could you pleases pass on where/how you got this Certificate for debugging?

> I'm contracting for a company that does development on many different
> devices. The Motorola Q has some quirks such as the navigation keys and
> back
> key don't work exactly the same as other devices. I also had to get a cab
> certificate exe from verizon to allow me to debug on the device. AT&T
> allows
> you to run the microsoft cert cab and debug directly. I've tested several
> device and have been the most happy with the AT&T 8525.
>
> Rick D.
> Contractor
>
> "Steve" wrote:
>
>> Hi. I'm a long-time desktop developer about to (probably) buy a Motorola
>> Q9m,
>> which runs Mobile 6. I'm interested in doing some development work for
>> Windows Mobile in Visual Studio 2005. (I saw a cool demo which ran a
>> model
>> of a smartphone in VS, allowing you to run/debug your app in it.)
>>
>> I've never owned a smartphone before, so I wanted to find out if phones
>> like
>> the Q9m, which is made just for Verizon and includes some proprietary
>> Verizon
>> software, is "locked down" in any way that would limit what software I
>> could
>> write/install for it?
>>
>> I'd hate to get it only to find out that I cant install an app that I've
>> built myself.
>>
>> Anyone out there built anything for it's predecessor, the Motorola Q?
>> Any
>> issues?
>>
>> Any comments are appreciated.
>> Thanks
>> S



Posted by dbgrick on September 12, 2007, 2:16 pm
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I contacted the Verizon support department through Verizon.net. Sent an
email and they had a rep contact me. When they found that I was developing
for their platform, they were very happy to provide me with the cert cab.

I develop using Native C++ as well as managed C#.
Rick D.
Contractor

"John Raven" wrote:

> Was going to start doing some work on the Moto Q (on Verizon).
> Could you pleases pass on where/how you got this Certificate for debugging?
>
> > I'm contracting for a company that does development on many different
> > devices. The Motorola Q has some quirks such as the navigation keys and
> > back
> > key don't work exactly the same as other devices. I also had to get a cab
> > certificate exe from verizon to allow me to debug on the device. AT&T
> > allows
> > you to run the microsoft cert cab and debug directly. I've tested several
> > device and have been the most happy with the AT&T 8525.
> >
> > Rick D.
> > Contractor
> >
> > "Steve" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi. I'm a long-time desktop developer about to (probably) buy a Motorola
> >> Q9m,
> >> which runs Mobile 6. I'm interested in doing some development work for
> >> Windows Mobile in Visual Studio 2005. (I saw a cool demo which ran a
> >> model
> >> of a smartphone in VS, allowing you to run/debug your app in it.)
> >>
> >> I've never owned a smartphone before, so I wanted to find out if phones
> >> like
> >> the Q9m, which is made just for Verizon and includes some proprietary
> >> Verizon
> >> software, is "locked down" in any way that would limit what software I
> >> could
> >> write/install for it?
> >>
> >> I'd hate to get it only to find out that I cant install an app that I've
> >> built myself.
> >>
> >> Anyone out there built anything for it's predecessor, the Motorola Q?
> >> Any
> >> issues?
> >>
> >> Any comments are appreciated.
> >> Thanks
> >> S
>
>
>

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