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Posted by Jezsta Web Productions on February 3, 2008, 6:34 pm
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> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:24:58 +0100, "Jezsta Web Productions"
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>>> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 02:12:37 +0100, "Jezsta Web Productions"
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>>>>LOL! the guy is writing a reply on his own quote .
>>>
>>> Yeah, I wondered about that, I was having trouble following.
>>
>>Bill let me get you memory to kick in about this guy,
>
> It's ok, I remember anyway. I just don't get het up the way you do.
Well, I just wanted to make sure you remember who he was. I am not letting
it bother me too much. My sinuses hurt too much for that. That is why I am
ignoring most of what he says by snipping most of it away, and one posting I
am not even bothering.
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>>Mark already has his thought on nofollow and juice flow so don't know why
>>he
>>is asking here. http://www.markrushworth.com/template_permalink.asp?id=205
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> How do you have the time to look all this stuff up? Jeez...
LOL! Wasn't that hard really. I have this thing about myself I can find
anything as long as it is on the internet, and it doesn't take me too long
sometimes. There are times I couldn't be bothered. It is also good use of
query phrases.:-) That is why my family always asks me to do the
searching.:-)
> I'm busy
> 24/7. I got bigger things on my mind, anyway, my eye surgery is
> unravelling and my vision has gone bad again. I have to go back to
> hospital tomorrow, see what they say about it. My being middle-aged is
> against me, here, frankly. But, maybe they can do some relatively
> minor restiching. I've been thinking for a time of trying some of that
> born-again boxing, you know the thing where 40-year-olds- box with big
> pads on their heads. That looks a little ambitious given my current
> frailty. One of my friends suggests fencing, and maybe I'll give it a
> go. I really miss being physical, you know? I'm back to 23 and a half
> stone now too :-(
Oh:-(, good luck BB. Hope all will be ok. I will be thinking about you. Let
us know when you are back and OK! How about dancing? There is nothing wrong
with being 40, wish I was there again.:-)
>>Now I do know about link flow and why people are using the nofollow, thing
>>is a person can already structure their navigation to control the "juice"
>>per say and still link "out" to other related and such articles. This is
>>just where the nofollow is being abused as we had said it would be when it
>>came out. Now wouldn't controlling the flow of links to make a page more
>>relevant be considered a link scheme?
>
> I use nofollow to funnel PR a little but I'm cautious with it.
I seem to do better without not worrying about it. There was a time I was
worried about PR, once I just started to link without worry rankings started
better on my newer sites and they got PR good also. I do try and keep the
linking slowly though and no major link action.
>> I didn't agree the first time I saw
>>it.
>
>>When I can get a page to #1 within less than a year's time:
>>http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=home+accessories&meta=
>>on a considered difficult SERP
>>http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=%22home+accessories%22&meta= 6,340,000
>>ACTUAL pages using that phrase. With a CMS driven site that can not be
>>totally optimized well with coding, and had to use related links only and
>>content text. Then that should prove one thing! The only links nofollowed
>>are the Affiliate and advertised sites.
>
> Yeah, I agree to use nofollow on them. I use it on contact us pages
> sometimes, T&C pages and stuff like them. But if you try to create
> link-juice internally by site-wide links, a technique I've always
> used, you maybe don't want those links on those pages. Those pages
> need to be out of the loop.
Yep.
>>Sure looks better than International Art Store huh?:-)
>
> I'll take your word.
OK.
>>Anchor text is still weighed highly on pages as with all my sites, there
>>are
>>many links that have been changed as far as gaining any credit from. I
>>have
>>already mentioned that here. Too many directories, blogs, Squidoos, and
>>such.
>
> I think they can be good for five-minute fame. Top ranks for extreme
> long-tail for five minutes.
Yeah, I see a lot of people still using them. Thing is they use them too
much, and wordpress will terminate blogs now for high usage of them for
artificially link ranking purposes. I have personally seen this happen to
someone. She lost 6 blogs and one had a PR of 5. Plus these blogs had a lot
of info on them. She is still Squidoo happy.
>> Links from actual sites still are the best, and a site still needs
>>links and should still link out to related sites.
>
> Oh I agree with that.
Thanks.:-)
>>Let's think about it, what would happen if no one linked out? Hmm, and all
>>they did was nofollow? The web needs links to get around. If you think
>>that
>>a page is worth going to then a person should link to it with no worries.
>>This whole scare about linking out to sites and trying to stop flow
>>internally with nofollow is going in the wrong direction.
>
> They're idiots.
My feelings exactly.
>> I haven't seen any
>>proof of the nofollowing links to make pages better, only talk. An SEO
>>needs
>>to use proven ways to make it, they can test other sites with things, but
>>to
>>say something is what needs to be done without proof or warrant then it is
>>not a technique one should be telling someone to use!
>
> I'll advise on what seems sensible even if I haven't done it
> personally. and of course I have to use my judgement with my clients.
> But it's not like we give guarantees here.
That is true no guarantees. I would rather test it good to see if I can get
it proven, but I am not going to waste my time until someone shows some
decent proof that it may work. So right now I just use things I know that
works.:-)
Stacey
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