You mean the kind of misperception that makes a fool advise outgoing
links in a discussion about internal links - or the kind that makes a
fool like yourself decide to attack your peers and post insults about
people who are only interested in making your tiny little world of
usenet a better place.

I've seen the ad hominem attacks that you've posted too, so don't
pretend to be any more intelligent, informed, or ethical than the
beast in this thread throwing rocks over her silly vendetta.

Don't think that your juvenile insults are making jezsta's
dumbfounding advice to increase your ranks by linking to other sites
any more relevant to the OP's question. You're just like her: crap
where you eat and spit on anyone that comes near you. You should both
be ashamed of yourselves.

Why are you here anyway bill? Helping the OP out with his question?
Breaking the terms of service?

defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten or otherwise violate the legal
rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others;

post any inappropriate, defamatory, infringing, obscene, or unlawful
Content;

post any Content that infringes any patent, trademark, copyright,
trade secret or other proprietary right of any party (the "Rights"),
unless you are the owner of the Rights or have the permission of the
owner to Post such Content;

post messages that promote disruptive commercial messages

restrict or inhibit any other user from using and enjoying the Service;

Posted by Big Bill on February 5, 2008, 3:22 am

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On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:22:13 -0800 (PST), "SEOwebMarket.com"

>> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 23:59:46 -0800 (PST), "SEOwebMarket.com"

>> >> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 10:10:42 -0800 (PST), "SEOwebMarket.com"

>> >> >On Feb 3, 7:24 am, "Jezsta Web Productions" wrote:

>> >> >> link "out" to other related and such articles.

>> >> >YOU are the only one in this thread discussing OUTBOUND LINKS genius.

>> >> Well I had the impression they wre being discussed by other people

>> >> myself.

>> >No. Just her & quite persistently too.

>> >Original OP post:

>> >"im trying for a more wiki style link structure and have nofollowed

>> >loads of internal links to keep juce flow controlled.. anyone got any

>> >thoughts "

>> >NOFOLLOW

>> >INTERNAL LINKS

>> >JUICE FLOW

>> >Her advice: "You need out going links

>> >that are related to help your relevance also."

>> >simply dumbfounding

>> >I gave the OP a decent answer but nobody will ever find it in this

>> >thread after her ongoing outgoing-link rants. What a waste of

>> >communication tools by someone who should be intelligent enough and

>> >familiar enough to know better.

>> >There should be a question, various answers, and a discussion about

>> >the difference in opinion (with relevant sources referenced) - rather

>> >than a terroristic troll spamming her peer's information in a

>> >vindictive tantrum because she has nothing better to do with her time.

>> >Some people call it crapping where you eat.

>> >simply dumbfounding

>> Were you ever diagnosed? Don't feel bothered by the question, we get

>> all kinds here. I'm wondering if your particular brand of

>> misperception has a name.

>You mean the kind of misperception that makes a fool advise outgoing

>links in a discussion about internal links - or the kind that makes a

>fool like yourself decide to attack your peers and post insults about

>people who are only interested in making your tiny little world of

>usenet a better place.

>I've seen the ad hominem attacks that you've posted too, so don't

>pretend to be any more intelligent, informed, or ethical than the

>beast in this thread throwing rocks over her silly vendetta.

>Don't think that your juvenile insults are making jezsta's

>dumbfounding advice to increase your ranks by linking to other sites

>any more relevant to the OP's question. You're just like her: crap

>where you eat and spit on anyone that comes near you. You should both

>be ashamed of yourselves.

>Why are you here anyway bill? Helping the OP out with his question?

>Breaking the terms of service?

>defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten or otherwise violate the legal

>rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others;

>post any inappropriate, defamatory, infringing, obscene, or unlawful

>Content;

>post any Content that infringes any patent, trademark, copyright,

>trade secret or other proprietary right of any party (the "Rights"),

>unless you are the owner of the Rights or have the permission of the

>owner to Post such Content;

>post messages that promote disruptive commercial messages

>restrict or inhibit any other user from using and enjoying the Service;

And where's the relevance to what's happening of any of that?

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Posted by SEOwebMarket.com on February 5, 2008, 4:08 am

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> On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:22:13 -0800 (PST), "SEOwebMarket.com"

> >Why are you here anyway bill? Helping the OP out with his question?

> >Breaking the terms of service?

> >defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten or otherwise violate the legal

> >rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others;

> >post any inappropriate, defamatory, infringing, obscene, or unlawful

> >Content;

> >post any Content that infringes any patent, trademark, copyright,

> >trade secret or other proprietary right of any party (the "Rights"),

> >unless you are the owner of the Rights or have the permission of the

> >owner to Post such Content;

> >post messages that promote disruptive commercial messages

> >restrict or inhibit any other user from using and enjoying the Service;

> And where's the relevance to what's happening of any of that?

Because obviously nobody wants YOU around if you don't have anything
productive (RELEVANT) to add to the conversation and are only
interested in harassing and verbally abusing your peers to appease
your "lover's" personal vendetta. It describes (both of) your behavior
perfectly in the Appropriate Conduct "NOT" section of the terms of
service agreement; you deserve each other.

Go tear the heads off of dolls in your own group:

alt.bill&jezsta-in-a-tree

Posted by Big Bill on February 5, 2008, 1:48 pm

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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 01:08:54 -0800 (PST), "SEOwebMarket.com"

>> On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:22:13 -0800 (PST), "SEOwebMarket.com"

>> >Why are you here anyway bill? Helping the OP out with his question?

>> >Breaking the terms of service?

>> >defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten or otherwise violate the legal

>> >rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others;

>> >post any inappropriate, defamatory, infringing, obscene, or unlawful

>> >Content;

>> >post any Content that infringes any patent, trademark, copyright,

>> >trade secret or other proprietary right of any party (the "Rights"),

>> >unless you are the owner of the Rights or have the permission of the

>> >owner to Post such Content;

>> >post messages that promote disruptive commercial messages

>> >restrict or inhibit any other user from using and enjoying the Service;

>> And where's the relevance to what's happening of any of that?

>Because obviously nobody wants YOU around if you don't have anything

>productive (RELEVANT) to add to the conversation and are only

>interested in harassing and verbally abusing your peers to appease

>your "lover's" personal vendetta.

Stacey! "Lovers!" O Momma!

> It describes (both of) your behavior

>perfectly in the Appropriate Conduct "NOT" section of the terms of

>service agreement; you deserve each other.

>Go tear the heads off of dolls in your own group:

>alt.bill&jezsta-in-a-tree

Heh-heh-heh-heh...

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Posted by Big Bill on February 3, 2008, 5:29 pm

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On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:24:58 +0100, "Jezsta Web Productions"

>> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 02:12:37 +0100, "Jezsta Web Productions"

>>>

>>>LOL! the guy is writing a reply on his own quote .

>> Yeah, I wondered about that, I was having trouble following.

>Bill let me get you memory to kick in about this guy,

It's ok, I remember anyway. I just don't get het up the way you do.

> Remember you got bad

>emails(and everyone else) flowing in and he used almost every name in the

>book. He is a troll almost! Look over at these to refresh your memory.

>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.internet.search-engines/browse_thread/thread/cfd8ea9a821a6eb4/96dbda9ee1806292?lnk=gst&q=#96dbda9ee1806292

>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.internet.search-engines/browse_thread/thread/b85ed3273d8adb84/89b358c6682bcd85?lnk=gst&q=#89b358c6682bcd85

>Mark already has his thought on nofollow and juice flow so don't know why he

>is asking here. http://www.markrushworth.com/template_permalink.asp?id=205

How do you have the time to look all this stuff up? Jeez... I'm busy
24/7. I got bigger things on my mind, anyway, my eye surgery is
unravelling and my vision has gone bad again. I have to go back to
hospital tomorrow, see what they say about it. My being middle-aged is
against me, here, frankly. But, maybe they can do some relatively
minor restiching. I've been thinking for a time of trying some of that
born-again boxing, you know the thing where 40-year-olds- box with big
pads on their heads. That looks a little ambitious given my current
frailty. One of my friends suggests fencing, and maybe I'll give it a
go. I really miss being physical, you know? I'm back to 23 and a half
stone now too :-(

>Now I do know about link flow and why people are using the nofollow, thing

>is a person can already structure their navigation to control the "juice"

>per say and still link "out" to other related and such articles. This is

>just where the nofollow is being abused as we had said it would be when it

>came out. Now wouldn't controlling the flow of links to make a page more

>relevant be considered a link scheme?

I use nofollow to funnel PR a little but I'm cautious with it.

> I didn't agree the first time I saw

>it.

>When I can get a page to #1 within less than a year's time:

>http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=home+accessories&meta=

>on a considered difficult SERP

>http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=%22home+accessories%22&meta= 6,340,000

>ACTUAL pages using that phrase. With a CMS driven site that can not be

>totally optimized well with coding, and had to use related links only and

>content text. Then that should prove one thing! The only links nofollowed

>are the Affiliate and advertised sites.

Yeah, I agree to use nofollow on them. I use it on contact us pages
sometimes, T&C pages and stuff like them. But if you try to create
link-juice internally by site-wide links, a technique I've always
used, you maybe don't want those links on those pages. Those pages
need to be out of the loop.

>Sure looks better than International Art Store huh?:-)

I'll take your word.

>Anchor text is still weighed highly on pages as with all my sites, there are

>many links that have been changed as far as gaining any credit from. I have

>already mentioned that here. Too many directories, blogs, Squidoos, and

>such.

I think they can be good for five-minute fame. Top ranks for extreme
long-tail for five minutes.

> Links from actual sites still are the best, and a site still needs

>links and should still link out to related sites.

Oh I agree with that.

>Let's think about it, what would happen if no one linked out? Hmm, and all

>they did was nofollow? The web needs links to get around. If you think that

>a page is worth going to then a person should link to it with no worries.

>This whole scare about linking out to sites and trying to stop flow

>internally with nofollow is going in the wrong direction.

They're idiots.

> I haven't seen any

>proof of the nofollowing links to make pages better, only talk. An SEO needs

>to use proven ways to make it, they can test other sites with things, but to

>say something is what needs to be done without proof or warrant then it is

>not a technique one should be telling someone to use!

>Stacey

I'll advise on what seems sensible even if I haven't done it
personally. and of course I have to use my judgement with my clients.
But it's not like we give guarantees here.

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