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Posted by Jezsta Web Productions on February 2, 2008, 8:12 pm
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> > Your ad hominem attack is in "bad taste" and it's also very immature.
> > You're throwing rocks at a brick wall.

>I understand your need to change the subject and attack the messenger
- but that still doesn't change the fact that you're giving worthless,
outdated advice because you haven't realized yet that your linking
schemes are black-hat and have been strictly penalized during the past
>FOUR MONTHS on many websites.

LOL! the guy is writing a reply on his own quote .

You were rude the last time you came and nothing has changed. You obviously
do not know anything about linking at all. Especially linking out helps you.
People who nofollow too much are being watched. People who link out to
relevant pages are being rewarded. You really need to read up on linking out
to related sites on your pages. Now you need to understand that what I am
saying is not a link scheme!! LOL you need to get that out of your head and
understand that I said placing links helps your site for relevance, this is
to link out and not worry about PR or anything. Can you not understand the
simple thing about links to sites of authoritive nature?

http://www.webmasterworld.com/search_engine_promotion/3237748.htm
http://www.highrankings.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=23648

There is good linking and there is bad you need to learn which is which!

Now I am done with you, as you really are starting to bore me.

Stacey


Posted by Big Bill on February 2, 2008, 11:39 pm
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On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 02:12:37 +0100, "Jezsta Web Productions"

>
>
>
>
>
>> > Your ad hominem attack is in "bad taste" and it's also very immature.
>> > You're throwing rocks at a brick wall.
>
>>I understand your need to change the subject and attack the messenger
>- but that still doesn't change the fact that you're giving worthless,
>outdated advice because you haven't realized yet that your linking
>schemes are black-hat and have been strictly penalized during the past
>>FOUR MONTHS on many websites.
>
>LOL! the guy is writing a reply on his own quote .

Yeah, I wondered about that, I was having trouble following.

>You were rude the last time you came and nothing has changed. You obviously
>do not know anything about linking at all. Especially linking out helps you.
>People who nofollow too much are being watched. People who link out to
>relevant pages are being rewarded. You really need to read up on linking out
>to related sites on your pages. Now you need to understand that what I am
>saying is not a link scheme!! LOL you need to get that out of your head and
>understand that I said placing links helps your site for relevance, this is
>to link out and not worry about PR or anything. Can you not understand the
>simple thing about links to sites of authoritive nature?

Not just authoritive, informative and related whether regarded as
authoritiveor not.

>http://www.webmasterworld.com/search_engine_promotion/3237748.htm
>http://www.highrankings.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=23648
>
>There is good linking and there is bad you need to learn which is which!
>
>Now I am done with you, as you really are starting to bore me.

Pah! She leaves her many lovers like that, I'll bet... :-)

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Posted by SEOwebMarket.com on February 3, 2008, 12:31 am
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> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 02:12:37 +0100, "Jezsta Web Productions"

> >Now I am done with you, as you really are starting to bore me.
>
> Pah! She leaves her many lovers like that, I'll bet... :-)

With an attitude like that, she probably doesn't have any.

Maybe that's why she's so repugnant in the first place.

Posted by Jezsta Web Productions on February 3, 2008, 8:24 am
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> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 02:12:37 +0100, "Jezsta Web Productions"

>>
>>LOL! the guy is writing a reply on his own quote .
>
> Yeah, I wondered about that, I was having trouble following.

Bill let me get you memory to kick in about this guy, Remember you got bad
emails(and everyone else) flowing in and he used almost every name in the
book. He is a troll almost! Look over at these to refresh your memory.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.internet.search-engines/browse_thread/thread/cfd8ea9a821a6eb4/96dbda9ee1806292?lnk=gst&q=#96dbda9ee1806292
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.internet.search-engines/browse_thread/thread/b85ed3273d8adb84/89b358c6682bcd85?lnk=gst&q=#89b358c6682bcd85


Mark already has his thought on nofollow and juice flow so don't know why he
is asking here. http://www.markrushworth.com/template_permalink.asp?id=205

Now I do know about link flow and why people are using the nofollow, thing
is a person can already structure their navigation to control the "juice"
per say and still link "out" to other related and such articles. This is
just where the nofollow is being abused as we had said it would be when it
came out. Now wouldn't controlling the flow of links to make a page more
relevant be considered a link scheme? I didn't agree the first time I saw
it.

When I can get a page to #1 within less than a year's time:
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=home+accessories&meta=
on a considered difficult SERP
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=%22home+accessories%22&meta= 6,340,000
ACTUAL pages using that phrase. With a CMS driven site that can not be
totally optimized well with coding, and had to use related links only and
content text. Then that should prove one thing! The only links nofollowed
are the Affiliate and advertised sites.

Sure looks better than International Art Store huh?:-)

Anchor text is still weighed highly on pages as with all my sites, there are
many links that have been changed as far as gaining any credit from. I have
already mentioned that here. Too many directories, blogs, Squidoos, and
such. Links from actual sites still are the best, and a site still needs
links and should still link out to related sites.

Let's think about it, what would happen if no one linked out? Hmm, and all
they did was nofollow? The web needs links to get around. If you think that
a page is worth going to then a person should link to it with no worries.
This whole scare about linking out to sites and trying to stop flow
internally with nofollow is going in the wrong direction. I haven't seen any
proof of the nofollowing links to make pages better, only talk. An SEO needs
to use proven ways to make it, they can test other sites with things, but to
say something is what needs to be done without proof or warrant then it is
not a technique one should be telling someone to use!

Stacey

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Jezsta Web Productions
SEO Tips - Website Design - Marketing
http://jezsta.com/



Posted by dk_sz on February 3, 2008, 10:38 am
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> Mark already has his thought on nofollow and juice flow so don't know why
> he is asking here.
> http://www.markrushworth.com/template_permalink.asp?id=205
>
> Now I do know about link flow and why people are using the nofollow

Actually, the SEOMoz guys talk about no-follow internal links as well:
http://www.seomoz.org/blog/sculpting-with-nofollow-works-pretty-darn-well


best regards
Thomas Schulz



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