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clients separated from DC by firewall Jay 06-07-2007
Posted by Jay on June 7, 2007, 5:22 pm
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straightforward question - I have a range of PCs that are separated from
their domain controller by a PIX. I need to know what ports are required
for me to join these clients to the domain.

the doc 'Active Directory in Networks Segmented by Firewalls' leads me to
believe I need:

445 (DS)
88 (Kerberos)
389 (LDAP)
53 (DNS)

assume both TCP and UDP for the above. The problem is I am getting and RPC
error and I see 135 being dropped by my PIX. What are the ports needed to
join a computer to a domain?

Is there a 'right' way to do this?

Thanks
Blake


Posted by S. Pidgorny on June 8, 2007, 5:46 am
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What is missing:

* RPC endpoint mapper (135/TCP) + a fixable
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/224196/) port for login services
* LDAP to GC (3268/TCP)
* ICMP ping

Note that Kerberos is UDP by default and LDAP is using both TCP and UDP (UDP
= LDAP ping); DNS also may use TCP. Protocols are important. SSL may change
port requirements, too. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/832017/

--
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-= F1 is the key =-

* http://sl.mvps.org * http://msmvps.com/blogs/sp *

> straightforward question - I have a range of PCs that are separated from
> their domain controller by a PIX. I need to know what ports are required
> for me to join these clients to the domain.
>
> the doc 'Active Directory in Networks Segmented by Firewalls' leads me to
> believe I need:
>
> 445 (DS)
> 88 (Kerberos)
> 389 (LDAP)
> 53 (DNS)
>
> assume both TCP and UDP for the above. The problem is I am getting and
> RPC error and I see 135 being dropped by my PIX. What are the ports
> needed to join a computer to a domain?
>
> Is there a 'right' way to do this?
>
> Thanks
> Blake



Posted by Anthony on June 8, 2007, 7:13 am
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Just a comment: by the time you open that lot up, I am not sure what the
firewall is preventing any longer. You may as well allow all communication
between specified hosts or LAN in my opinion.
Anthony
http://www.airdesk.co.uk


> What is missing:
>
> * RPC endpoint mapper (135/TCP) + a fixable
> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/224196/) port for login services
> * LDAP to GC (3268/TCP)
> * ICMP ping
>
> Note that Kerberos is UDP by default and LDAP is using both TCP and UDP
> (UDP = LDAP ping); DNS also may use TCP. Protocols are important. SSL may
> change port requirements, too. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/832017/
>
> --
> Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MS MVP - Security, MCSE
> -= F1 is the key =-
>
> * http://sl.mvps.org * http://msmvps.com/blogs/sp *
>
>> straightforward question - I have a range of PCs that are separated from
>> their domain controller by a PIX. I need to know what ports are required
>> for me to join these clients to the domain.
>>
>> the doc 'Active Directory in Networks Segmented by Firewalls' leads me to
>> believe I need:
>>
>> 445 (DS)
>> 88 (Kerberos)
>> 389 (LDAP)
>> 53 (DNS)
>>
>> assume both TCP and UDP for the above. The problem is I am getting and
>> RPC error and I see 135 being dropped by my PIX. What are the ports
>> needed to join a computer to a domain?
>>
>> Is there a 'right' way to do this?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Blake
>
>



Posted by Jay on June 8, 2007, 9:14 am
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I agree

> Just a comment: by the time you open that lot up, I am not sure what the
> firewall is preventing any longer. You may as well allow all communication
> between specified hosts or LAN in my opinion.
> Anthony
> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>
>
>> What is missing:
>>
>> * RPC endpoint mapper (135/TCP) + a fixable
>> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/224196/) port for login services
>> * LDAP to GC (3268/TCP)
>> * ICMP ping
>>
>> Note that Kerberos is UDP by default and LDAP is using both TCP and UDP
>> (UDP = LDAP ping); DNS also may use TCP. Protocols are important. SSL may
>> change port requirements, too. See
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/832017/
>>
>> --
>> Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MS MVP - Security, MCSE
>> -= F1 is the key =-
>>
>> * http://sl.mvps.org * http://msmvps.com/blogs/sp *
>>
>>> straightforward question - I have a range of PCs that are separated
>>> from their domain controller by a PIX. I need to know what ports are
>>> required for me to join these clients to the domain.
>>>
>>> the doc 'Active Directory in Networks Segmented by Firewalls' leads me
>>> to believe I need:
>>>
>>> 445 (DS)
>>> 88 (Kerberos)
>>> 389 (LDAP)
>>> 53 (DNS)
>>>
>>> assume both TCP and UDP for the above. The problem is I am getting and
>>> RPC error and I see 135 being dropped by my PIX. What are the ports
>>> needed to join a computer to a domain?
>>>
>>> Is there a 'right' way to do this?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Blake
>>
>>
>
>


Posted by S. Pidgorny on June 8, 2007, 11:40 pm
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G'day:

> Just a comment: by the time you open that lot up, I am not sure what the
> firewall is preventing any longer.

The answer is: everything that is not allowed through the firewalls.

Firewalls are increasingly a part of a problem than a part of a solution. My
thoughts on that are at
http://msmvps.com/blogs/sp/archive/2007/02/20/firewalls-are-a-thing-of-the-past.aspx.

What a firewall should be?
http://msmvps.com/blogs/sp/archive/2007/03/08/tomorrow-s-firewalls.aspx

(my blog has no ads)

--
Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MS MVP - Security, MCSE
-= F1 is the key =-

* http://sl.mvps.org * http://msmvps.com/blogs/sp *



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