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blocking robots.txt from non-robots Joe Fox 02-20-2008
Posted by Joe Fox on February 21, 2008, 5:09 pm
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> John Bokma schreef:
>>
>>> I don't want certain humans (only a few hundred in number but all on
>>> dynamic IPs in several countries) to be able to read the robots.txt
>>> that I'm giving search engines because I don't want them to know
>>> what pages I am telling SE's "disallow"
>>
>> Maybe it helps if you explain the why. Which is not: I don't want
>> them to read. What do you want to achieve? Why should those people
>> not be able to read your robots.txt
>>
>>> What's so wrong with this?
>>
>> To me it sounds pointless. I see no gain in it, but maybe you can
>> explain better the *why*?
>
> He doesn't want real people to know which files he is hiding and were
> to find them.

Exactly.

> I agree John, it is pointless.

Perhaps, but if pointless it is also harmless. I'm sure that
google & others don't give a fork whether human users are able to
determine what I allow or disallow to be indexed. I'm not hiding
content, I'm wanting to keep to myself what is or is not indexed.


Posted by Joe Fox on February 21, 2008, 5:06 pm
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>
>> I don't want certain humans (only a few hundred in number but all on
>> dynamic IPs in several countries) to be able to read the robots.txt
>> that I'm giving search engines because I don't want them to know what
>> pages I am telling SE's "disallow"
>
> Maybe it helps if you explain the why. Which is not: I don't want them
> to read. What do you want to achieve? Why should those people not be
> able to read your robots.txt

Because I consider it to be a proprietary document and I do not want
these people to be able to determine if I am allowing or disallowing
certain pages to be indexed.

>> What's so wrong with this?
>
> To me it sounds pointless. I see no gain in it, but maybe you can
> explain better the *why*?
>

As I said in another post, Can we save discussion of *why* for another
time and talk about *how*?

Thanks

Posted by John Bokma on February 21, 2008, 7:02 pm
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> As I said in another post, Can we save discussion of *why* for another
> time and talk about *how*?

Like I wrote in reply to that other post: we're trying to help you for
*free*. But even if you were paying me, I would ask you *why*. Too often
people think they have an X problem, and try to find all kinds of
solutions to that, while the real problem is Y. If you ever have been
helping others on Usenet, you certainly know what I mean.

It sounds to me like you're afraid to educated others (give away your
secrets) by hiding your robots.txt. If that is indeed the case you *do*
have a X -> Y problem.

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John Bokma http://johnbokma.com/

Posted by Paul on February 21, 2008, 7:44 pm
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>John Bokma http://johnbokma.com/

You have email John.
plh
Paul

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Posted by John Bokma on February 21, 2008, 9:53 pm
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> You have email John.

Thanks Paul, looking into it (got the Gecko one as well, haven't had time
to check it out, thanks).


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