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blocking robots.txt from non-robots Joe Fox 02-20-2008
Posted by Joe Fox on February 21, 2008, 5:01 pm
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> wrote:
>
>>
>>>> Perhaps I didn't say it right.  I'm wanting to block the robots.txt
>>>> that
>>>
>>>> I'm feeding search engines from being given to anybody else.
>>>
>>> If Google catch you they will exclude you from the index.
>>>
>>> 'Don't deceive your users or present different content to search
>>> engines than you display to users, which is commonly referred to as
>>> "cloaking." '
>>>
>>
>>
>>I can't believe this.
>>
>>I'm not trying to cloak my content or pull anything underhanded.
>
> You are, though, you're trying to cloak your robots.txt.

Which I cannot for the life of me see what is wrong with that.

I consider it to be a proprietary document that gets fed to search
engines as needed. Humans have zero business even being able to read it.



Posted by Phil Payne on February 21, 2008, 9:28 am
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> >> Perhaps I didn't say it right. =A0I'm wanting to block the robots.txt
> >> that
> >> I'm feeding search engines from being given to anybody else.
>
> > If Google catch you they will exclude you from the index.
>
> > 'Don't deceive your users or present different content to search
> > engines than you display to users, which is commonly referred to as
> > "cloaking." '
>
> I can't believe this.

Then you need to make a greater effort.

Posted by Andrew Heenan on February 21, 2008, 10:12 am
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> I don't want certain humans (only a few hundred in number but all on
> dynamic IPs in several countries) to be able to read the robots.txt that
> I'm giving search engines because I don't want them to know what pages I
> am telling SE's "disallow"
>
> What's so wrong with this?

You don't own Google, and they choose not to be used in this way.
It's their index, and they make the rules.
If you choose to ignore them ... they may choose to ignore your site.

Nothing underhand there, either.
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Posted by John Bokma on February 21, 2008, 10:59 am
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> I don't want certain humans (only a few hundred in number but all on
> dynamic IPs in several countries) to be able to read the robots.txt that
> I'm giving search engines because I don't want them to know what pages I
> am telling SE's "disallow"

Maybe it helps if you explain the why. Which is not: I don't want them to
read. What do you want to achieve? Why should those people not be able to
read your robots.txt

> What's so wrong with this?

To me it sounds pointless. I see no gain in it, but maybe you can explain
better the *why*?

BTW: I disagree with others that Google et al should have a problem with
this. Although it's cloaking, it's not something (in this case) Google
should care about. It's like getting upset about a site that shows a flag
on its page based on the country you connect from, and feeds Google a flag
of the USA :-)

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Posted by Tonnie Lubbers on February 21, 2008, 12:52 pm
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John Bokma schreef:
>
>> I don't want certain humans (only a few hundred in number but all on
>> dynamic IPs in several countries) to be able to read the robots.txt that
>> I'm giving search engines because I don't want them to know what pages I
>> am telling SE's "disallow"
>
> Maybe it helps if you explain the why. Which is not: I don't want them to
> read. What do you want to achieve? Why should those people not be able to
> read your robots.txt
>
>> What's so wrong with this?
>
> To me it sounds pointless. I see no gain in it, but maybe you can explain
> better the *why*?

He doesn't want real people to know which files he is hiding and were to
find them.

I agree John, it is pointless.

> BTW: I disagree with others that Google et al should have a problem with
> this. Although it's cloaking, it's not something (in this case) Google
> should care about. It's like getting upset about a site that shows a flag
> on its page based on the country you connect from, and feeds Google a flag
> of the USA :-)

If i were a bot, i would get very upset. Eating flags all day long seems
to me not the best meal one can get. :)



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