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bad clusters/sectors on new laptop, chkdsk gets stuck trying to repair techman41973 07-31-2007
Posted by techman41973 on July 31, 2007, 12:40 am
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I recently bought a new HP laptop with an extended warrantee.
In the past few weeks, often I would get the blue screen of death and
the system will just spontaneously crash and then I have to reboot. I
ran chkdsk and it says there are errors on the drive (no specifics).
It then tells me it couldn't repair the problems because the drive was
locked by other processes. I then entered in the command prompt
chkdsk /F/R and answered Yes for to authorize CHKDSK to run on reboot.
When CHKDSK runs on reboot everything is fine until stage 4/5 where I
get a ton of error messages, all the same
"the disk does not have enough space to replace bad clusters"
I then went into windows and noticed I have only 26GB filled with 74GB
free on a 100GB hard drive. There are no other partitions. So I don't
understand why I am getting this error.
I wonder if there is something seriously wrong with the hard disk
drive.
I want to avoid sending it in to HP as I don't want to be without a
laptop for a few weeks.
Is there anything I can do to fix this problem or diagnose it further.
Thanks


Posted by Val on July 31, 2007, 1:03 am
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Sounds like the drive is bad. Get it replaced.

"the disk does not have enough space to replace bad clusters" has nothing
to do with the amount of free space you see available. Drives are made with
the expectation that some sectors will be/will become bad, and extra space
is available on the drive to map those sectors to when they go. When you
run out of the extra space, you lose disk capacity.

I haven't dealt with HP for a repair issue in a long time - perhaps they can
send you and exchange drive rather than your having to return the whole
laptop. Swapping out drives is a pretty easy, user-doable task.

Val

I recently bought a new HP laptop with an extended warrantee.
In the past few weeks, often I would get the blue screen of death and
the system will just spontaneously crash and then I have to reboot. I
ran chkdsk and it says there are errors on the drive (no specifics).
It then tells me it couldn't repair the problems because the drive was
locked by other processes. I then entered in the command prompt
chkdsk /F/R and answered Yes for to authorize CHKDSK to run on reboot.
When CHKDSK runs on reboot everything is fine until stage 4/5 where I
get a ton of error messages, all the same
"the disk does not have enough space to replace bad clusters"
I then went into windows and noticed I have only 26GB filled with 74GB
free on a 100GB hard drive. There are no other partitions. So I don't
understand why I am getting this error.
I wonder if there is something seriously wrong with the hard disk
drive.
I want to avoid sending it in to HP as I don't want to be without a
laptop for a few weeks.
Is there anything I can do to fix this problem or diagnose it further.
Thanks



Posted by Folkert Rienstra on August 1, 2007, 6:14 pm
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Hey, another Bozo, that I appear to have overlooked.

> Sounds like the drive is bad. Get it replaced.

> "the disk does not have enough space to replace bad clusters" has nothing
> to do with the amount of free space you see available.

Of course it does.

> Drives are made with the expectation that some sectors will be/will become
> bad, and extra space is available on the drive to map those sectors to when
> they go.

Fully transparant and invisible to the OS.

> When you run out of the extra space, you lose disk capacity.

No you don't. You just get write errors and nothing further happens.
And that only when all sectors in the partition free space are all marked
as a pending bad sector.
Else any write to the free space by the OS just goes unchecked, without a-
ny resulting error. And you loose (partition) capacity anyway when the OS
sets aside bad sectors (per cluster) in the file system administration and
replaces them with free clusters, whether the drive is out of spares, or not.

And even someone as stupid as Bozo should be able to recognize that the used
and free space add up to the full drive capacity without any loss of capacity.

alt.comp.hardware, comp.sys.laptops, full of Bozos.

>
> I haven't dealt with HP for a repair issue in a long time - perhaps they can
> send you and exchange drive rather than your having to return the whole
> laptop. Swapping out drives is a pretty easy, user-doable task.
>
> Val
>
> I recently bought a new HP laptop with an extended warrantee.
> In the past few weeks, often I would get the blue screen of death and
> the system will just spontaneously crash and then I have to reboot. I
> ran chkdsk and it says there are errors on the drive (no specifics).
> It then tells me it couldn't repair the problems because the drive was
> locked by other processes. I then entered in the command prompt
> chkdsk /F/R and answered Yes for to authorize CHKDSK to run on reboot.
> When CHKDSK runs on reboot everything is fine until stage 4/5 where I
> get a ton of error messages, all the same
> "the disk does not have enough space to replace bad clusters"
> I then went into windows and noticed I have only 26GB filled with 74GB
> free on a 100GB hard drive. There are no other partitions. So I don't
> understand why I am getting this error.
> I wonder if there is something seriously wrong with the hard disk
> drive.
> I want to avoid sending it in to HP as I don't want to be without a
> laptop for a few weeks.
> Is there anything I can do to fix this problem or diagnose it further.
> Thanks

Posted by Jack on August 6, 2007, 11:04 am
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: Hey, another Bozo, that I appear to have overlooked.
:
<snip>

: alt.comp.hardware, comp.sys.laptops, full of Bozos.
:

Sounds pretty funny coming from the lead Bozo of them all, you fucking
asshole!

j.


Posted by Stretch on August 6, 2007, 2:45 pm
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> > Hey, another Bozo, that I appear to have overlooked.
> >
> <snip>
>
> > alt.comp.hardware, comp.sys.laptops, full of Bozos.
> >

> Sounds pretty funny coming from the lead Bozo of them all,

> you fucking asshole!

Oh look, that foul-mouth gender-confused Jac/Jack/Jacky troll is back
again, to make one of it's very rare appearances to criticise the critics.

It used to post from Spain.
Perhaps they have finally expelled it, back to where it came from.

>
> j.

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