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OK, so Mcafee is not too popular.
How about Windows Live One Care? They are allowing 3 installations for one
purchase.



Re: Windows Live One Care


| OK, so Mcafee is not too popular.
| How about Windows Live One Care? They are allowing 3 installations for one
| purchase.
|

Pure junk.  The problem with Retail McAfee is its registration process, need for
updating in
admininstrative level account, tied to IE and lack of settings control.  However
it has
McAfee's catch rate.  The catch rate of Microsoft's so-called anti virus
solution falls way
short of all its peers in the anti virus Industry.  I again point you towards
Kaspersky or
NOD32.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



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We have a number of different computers, with various protection products.
Some expire quite soon, some not so soon. I note that Kaspersky is by far
most expensive from where I've looked. NOD32 is just anti virus.
I like MS's comprehensive yet much less expensive approach: anti virus,
firewall, spyware, etc. This way numerous products don't have to be
purchased, installed, and worked out as to compatiblity. H*ll, it's a mess
out there. :-)
Tks.



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| We have a number of different computers, with various protection products.
| Some expire quite soon, some not so soon. I note that Kaspersky is by far
| most expensive from where I've looked. NOD32 is just anti virus.
| I like MS's comprehensive yet much less expensive approach: anti virus,
| firewall, spyware, etc. This way numerous products don't have to be
| purchased, installed, and worked out as to compatiblity. H*ll, it's a mess
| out there. :-)
| Tks.
|

NOD32 with ZoneAlarm, Kerio or Comodo FireWall still is way better than OneCare.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



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pete@nospam.com says...
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"Comprehensive" means jack of all trades and master of none. Cost is
always a consideration but the cost of infection could well be much
higher. Nod 32 and Kaspersky have proven themselves to be superior in
detection and reliability. They are not cheap but in the end will be
found to be of good value for the dollar. It's your systems. In the end
it comes down to your choice and peace of mind.

--
James E. Morrow
 Email to: jamesemorrow@email.com

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If costs matter, why don't you go for:

Active Virus Shield - Kaspersky Labs, courtesy of AOL - FREE
   (http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/index.adp )

**Do NOT install the AOL security toolbar, most experts consider it to be
spyware**.

AVS is based on KAV version 6 and apparently has a very good 'catch rate'.

Cheers....................Kayman.


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pete@nospam.com says...
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We're just going through the bi-annual "shall we dump one of
our products and buy something else" exercise and the F-Secure
badged version of Kaspersky is a good price. Mind you that's
over 30000 seats.

--
"He just said it had an 'x'."
"It isn't their necks I mind," said Piglet earnestly.
"It's their teeth."

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PS:
What leads you to believe it is "pure junk?" Are there statistics you can
point to?
-Pete



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| PS:
| What leads you to believe it is "pure junk?" Are there statistics you can
| point to?
| -Pete
|

My own tests.  I have Zoo samples of old and new malware.  Many NEW.  Every time
I test a
folder full of malware, Microsoft is at the bottom of the list.  It has by far
the lowest
catch rate.

Additionally I send many samples to Virus Total.  Except for occasional BOT
variants,
Microsoft rarely detects what is tested.

Both of the following samples sent to Virus Total are NEW infectors.  Microsoft
catches
neither while Kaspersky (which I suggested) catches both !

Complete scanning result of "fxmngr.exe", processed in VirusTotal at 10/07/2006
13:50:42
(CET).

[ file data ]
* name: fxmngr.exe
* size: 3036
* md5.: dd1962f1e0aced99a2cadd66210faa97
* sha1: 9e3d3802a1043b128bc0d384aa4dabf0ae58744d

[ scan result ]
AntiVir 7.2.0.25/20061006 found nothing
Authentium 4.93.8/20061006 found nothing
Avast 4.7.892.0/20061007 found nothing
AVG 386/20061006 found nothing
BitDefender 7.2/20061007 found nothing
CAT-QuickHeal 8.00/20061006 found [TrojanDownloader.Zlob.akh]
ClamAV devel-20060426/20061007 found nothing
DrWeb 4.33/20061007 found nothing
eTrust-InoculateIT 23.73.16/20061007 found nothing
eTrust-Vet 30.3.3118/20061006 found nothing
Ewido 4.0/20061006 found nothing
F-Prot 3.16f/20061006 found nothing
F-Prot4 4.2.1.29/20061006 found nothing
Fortinet 2.82.0.0/20061007 found [suspicious]
Ikarus 0.2.65.0/20061007 found nothing
Kaspersky 4.0.2.24/20061007 found [not-virus:Hoax.Win32.Renos.fh]
McAfee 4868/20061006 found nothing
Microsoft 1.1603/20061007 found nothing
NOD32v2 1.1794/20061006 found nothing
Norman 5.80.02/20061006 found [W32/Suspicious_U.gen]
Panda 9.0.0.4/20061006 found [Suspicious file]
Sophos 4.10.0/20061005 found [Troj/Zlobol-Gen]
TheHacker 6.0.1.093/20061006 found nothing
UNA 1.83/20061006 found nothing
VBA32 3.11.1/20061006 found [suspected of MalwareScope.Downloader.Zlob.1
(paranoid
heuristics)]
VirusBuster 4.3.7:9/20061006 found nothing

[ notes ]
packers: UPACK
packers: UPack


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Complete scanning result of "sal.exe", processed in VirusTotal at 10/07/2006
14:01:12 (CET).

[ file data ]
* name: sal.exe
* size: 79165
* md5.: 91f6dfe42b838a3d84e842e63cbcd2f6
* sha1: b49b4c9c2388a5ac242405ed7df343c80604e0c5

[ scan result ]
 AntiVir 7.2.0.25/20061006 found nothing
Authentium 4.93.8/20061006 found nothing
Avast 4.7.892.0/20061007 found nothing
AVG 386/20061006 found nothing
BitDefender 7.2/20061007 found nothing
CAT-QuickHeal 8.00/20061006 found [(Suspicious) - DNAScan]
ClamAV devel-20060426/20061007 found nothing
DrWeb 4.33/20061007 found nothing
eTrust-InoculateIT 23.73.16/20061007 found nothing
eTrust-Vet 30.3.3118/20061006 found nothing
Ewido 4.0/20061006 found nothing
F-Prot 3.16f/20061006 found nothing
F-Prot4 4.2.1.29/20061006 found nothing
Fortinet 2.82.0.0/20061007 found [suspicious]
Ikarus 0.2.65.0/20061007 found nothing
Kaspersky 4.0.2.24/20061007 found [Backdoor.Win32.SdBot.awk]
McAfee 4868/20061006 found nothing
Microsoft 1.1603 /20061007 found nothing
NOD32v2 1.1794/20061006 found nothing
Norman 5.80.02/20061006 found nothing
Panda 9.0.0.4/20061006 found [Suspicious file]
Sophos 4.10.0/20061005 found nothing
TheHacker 6.0.1.093/20061006 found nothing
UNA 1.83/20061006 found nothing
VBA32 3.11.1/20061006 found nothing
VirusBuster 4.3.7:9/20061006 found nothing


--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



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Thanks for such a thorough response!! Damn, and I've already paid for One
Care for three computers. LAST time I install that.



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       As long as the people using your computers are fairly knowledgeable
about opening suspicious files and downloads, Windows OneCare should be
decent enough protection.  If you suspect a virus has gotten thru, you could
always use the free Symantec online virus scan.  Requires IE and downloading
ActiveX controls.  If you're using IE 7, you need to temporarily lower the
security settings.



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|        As long as the people using your computers are fairly knowledgeable
| about opening suspicious files and downloads, Windows OneCare should be
| decent enough protection.  If you suspect a virus has gotten thru, you could
| always use the free Symantec online virus scan.  Requires IE and downloading
| ActiveX controls.  If you're using IE 7, you need to temporarily lower the
| security settings.
|

Prevention is better than cure and OneCare falls short of good protection.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



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