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On 05/08/2010 17:44, David H. Lipman wrote:
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LOL

wolf k.

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| On 05/08/2010 17:44, David H. Lipman wrote:

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| LOL

Did 'ya hear about the blonde that snorted Sweet 'N Low ?


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A guy walks into a bar and seats himself at the bar next to a gorgeous
brunette. He says "Hey, I got a real funny blonde joke, ya wanna hear
it?". The girl next to him says "Sure, but I'm an actress playing a
brunette in a play in town, I'm actually a blonde. That big blonde at
the end of the bar works here, she is a bouncer. That blonde throwing
darts over there is a hand-to-hand combat instructor at the Marine base
just outside of town. Do you still want to tell that joke?"





Not if I'm going to have to explain it three times!



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| A guy walks into a bar and seats himself at the bar next to a gorgeous
| brunette. He says "Hey, I got a real funny blonde joke, ya wanna hear
| it?". The girl next to him says "Sure, but I'm an actress playing a
| brunette in a play in town, I'm actually a blonde. That big blonde at
| the end of the bar works here, she is a bouncer. That blonde throwing
| darts over there is a hand-to-hand combat instructor at the Marine base
| just outside of town. Do you still want to tell that joke?"

| Not if I'm going to have to explain it three times!

Chuckle - Chuckle...   :-)


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Since this is just catty remarks now, can you remove ba.internet  from the
follow-ups?  Thanks


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It's not *right*, but whatcha gonna do - dinner table conversation is
different than technical conversation.

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Only if they did indeed target viruses. If they couldn't detect at least
most existing viruses, they would be laughed out of business.

Maybe you would be so kind as to back that claim up with an example? To
the best of my knowledge, anti-malware programs that now incorporate an
antivirus engine don't bother to change the name to reflect that change.
Ad-Aware and The Cleaner have added the ability to detect viruses to
their programs IIRC even MBAM has detection for some viruses. Every *AV*
program I can think of not only *detect* and *identify* viruses, but
also can *remove* them (using a VDL). Some years ago they started to try
to cover non-replicating malware as well (might as well, they're already
hooked into the system anyway).

It's wrongheaded in a way, there are better ways to avoid most
non-replicators (the exception being software exploit based malware). It
is the worms and viruses that get around otherwise best practices.



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On 8/3/2010 1:41 PM, Dustin wrote:
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    Oh I've heard the terms before, it's just that most people I
know like electricians and electrical engineers call them
soldering irons, even the small ones.

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      I'm talking about the whole range of problems. I've seen
many different kinds of problems.

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      Provided it's a bad capacitor. But these days a lot of MB
capacitors are solid core and you have to test. Most of the
newer systems I see have both acid core and solid core capacitors.

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       I don't feel good about repairing an old motherboard that
already has leaking capacitors. Chances are something else is
going to go wrong with it. That's why I would rather get a new
motherboard and reinstall drivers. But you MUST be talking about
ancient times when you say it's cheaper to replace capacitors.

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      You see I go to people's houses and repair systems in my
home shop. So I would not go to someone's house and start
soldering. You may want to waste time and that's fine but I like
to leave the customer with something that will be working for a
while rather than leave them with a MB that's already going south.

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     How long ago was this? What kinds of computers and
motherboards were you repairing?

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       Yea but I started talking about components because it's
not just capacitors that go bad. You have surface mount chips
that go bad and they are a real pain in the ass to replace, if
you can find the chip. This is the main reason I don't see many
computer repair people actually get a soldering iron and go to
work on a component. It's mainly needed when someone has really
old stuff and it's very hard to find a replacement MB or card.
This is very rare.

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    It's a component in a computer and that's what I repair.

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     You have got to be kidding. Fixing a teeny tiny component
on a sound card is easier than getting a new one and installing
the drivers? Do you actually repair a lot of new sound cards
these days? If so, what was the last sound card you repaired?

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     That's me, I pass it off to the company that made it. I let
them do the refurbishing work. I don't refurbish parts. I let
the customer weigh costs and sometimes it just cheaper to let
the vendor do repairs or buy a new laptop. Laptops are pretty
cheap now. Lots of people go with a new one.

John

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Acid core capacitors?

...is this more dinner table conversation?



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| Acid core capacitors?

| ...is this more dinner table conversation?


G-d I missed this.

"...acid core and solid core capacitors..." it is as funny as the furniture
polish on the
feather to claen the dust out of the computer.

I guess it is easier to write acid then electrolytic.

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On 8/5/2010 8:36 PM, David H. Lipman wrote:
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      Both are correct, you call yourself a professional and you
don't know that many "wet" capacitors use acid electrolytes?

John


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| On 8/5/2010 8:36 PM, David H. Lipman wrote:


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|       Both are correct, you call yourself a professional and you
| don't know that many "wet" capacitors use acid electrolytes?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolytic_capacitor



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On 8/6/2010 3:11 AM, David H. Lipman wrote:
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        And acid core capacitors are wet capacitors. Now let me
ask you this. Would you repair a motherboard that has several
bulging electrolytic capacitors rather than replace the
motherboard? I'm still waiting for Dustin to tell me when was
the last time he repaired a sound card and what it was.

John


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|         And acid core capacitors are wet capacitors. Now let me
| ask you this. Would you repair a motherboard that has several
| bulging electrolytic capacitors rather than replace the
| motherboard? I'm still waiting for Dustin to tell me when was
| the last time he repaired a sound card and what it was.

I would consider such a circuit board to have compromised integrity and not
being worthy
of repair, only replacement.


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On 8/6/2010 1:56 PM, David H. Lipman wrote:
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         Now tell Dustin Cook that please. He doesn't seem to
get that point.

John

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| On 8/6/2010 1:56 PM, David H. Lipman wrote:



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|          Now tell Dustin Cook that please. He doesn't seem to
| get that point.

Dustin is still young and is still learning.  Albeit he has come a long ways  :-)

Cheers Dustin.

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That's because I have a strong background in electronics, John. And in
some cases, integrity can be verified via a thorough and rigourous
system burn in. You can stress test a system after doing such a repair
to make sure she's going to keep running, or you can just replace the
whole board if your unsure of the board or your ability to properly
replace the caps.

either way you wish to do it, it can be done.


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Dunno what to tell you about that. Perhaps they prefer to use technical
terminology in a non technical way? Like, say, trojan being the same as
virus...

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Well, I'm sure we all have at some point. Although, the problems are
usually routine...
 
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Well, as I said, when the top is swollen and a grey powdery looking
substance is all over it, it's a good clue. :)
 
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Well, I thought the fact I mentioned AT class for a bill or two was a
clue about old times. :) You've been in the business a long time,
right? I'm sure you remember the trusty AT class machines.
 
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We did onsite calls to home/business and some small industries here as
well. If it required more than some software installation or a routine
hardware repair, the box was taken back to the shop. We didn't do
soldering work at the customers home. As you know, solder can be rather
stinky stuff and it's not that good to be breathing. The shop was
better suited due to the air system we had.
 
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AT/ATX class desktops and towers. IBM/PC and compatibles. We've worked
on gateway, packard smells, compaq, hp, compaq after HP, emachines (god
awful little computers, cheaply built and poor quality power supply
units. In many cases, you would want to check the power supply power
good line for an overload condition if you had to replace a bad
mainboard, as the best tec (google this too if you'd like) was bad for
murdering the mainboards by stepping the current up from 3.3 to 5volts
and killing a power transistor or two.  Emachines actually went so far
as to send a little memo sheet when we signed up to do field service
warranty work on their behalf; Always check the power good line when
replacing mainboard, as the power supply may have been at fault for the
untimely death of the mainboard, and if you didn't check it, it would
most likely just kill the new board emachine sent us to put in.

Have you no experience first hand with that issue either?

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Oh for sure! Try replacing the main control chip on the primary board
for an HP laserjet4000. :(

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It depends on what the computer is controlling. In a few cases, the
machines were running cnc milling machines and/or lathes. We couldn't
just swap the computer out and reload windows. Some weren't even
running windows. :)
 
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Well, to be technical, and professional, replacing the component with
another working one isn't really repairing the original component. :)
It's like car mechanics to me when you say you repaired something, by
replacing the bad part. Yes, the machine as a whole is repaired, but
the part is still in the same condition.

 
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The last soundcard I actually fixed was an AudigyFX. Creative wouldn't
warranty the card, so I took a chance on it and replaced a bad resistor
(It was visibly burnt). Soundcard's been fine ever since.

if you have the latest and greatest hardware and the customer doesn't
care, sure replace away... But, if you have to keep the machine running
with the hardware it has for some odd reason (In this case, it's a
digital recording studio and some of the software was custom written
for that specific card), I had no other real option. I knew the cards
problem was the resistor. honestly, I spent more in gas driving to get
the right one than I did on the part. :)
 
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I understand that, but in my case; we would have been one of the
companies (if you couldn't get the original manufacturer) that you'd
pass the hard stuff off too. :)



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| That school of thought does exist, yes. I don't subscribe to it tho.


It does exist.  However first you perform a Cost Benefit Analysis (CBA).


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Please stop this nonsense already.  I got the answers I needed.  All you're
doing is making yourselves look like fools.  


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For Gods sake !!!.
This thread is supposed to be Re: Win32/RAMNIT.A
which I have a nasty dose of & want info / advice.
I'm having a Hell of a trouble finding that in
all this O/T chat.

If you want to have this very interesting & informative discussion Re:
Computer Servicing start up an OT thread on that.
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