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| It might be a regionalism, or a Britishism/Americanism. In over 20 years
| I've never used, or heard used, "soldering pencil" in a lab in the U.S.,
| although I am familiar with the term. It's always been "soldering iron",
| whether a giant thing to solder heavy cables, or a tool suited to tiny
| ICs and SMT parts. Metcals are generally the best I've seen for small
| devices; they put a high temperature (typically 600 to 700F) into a very
| very small area very quickly (80W output).

| Steve

I've always known the as "soldering irons" which goes back to the days prior to
when the
were heated by and elecetric current when you put the iron in the fire, so to
speak.

The best I ever had was powered by butane and used a catalyst to flamlessly burn
the gas.
Great soldering iron, grat heat shrink device.

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On 8/2/2010 11:35 PM, Dustin wrote:
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      Well most people I know call all of them "soldering irons"
no matter the size.


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     I've seen just about everything that can cause a MB or card
to fail. I swap it out. I don't whip out a soldering iron at a
client's house to fix a throw-away component like a mother board
or card these days. It's just not worth the effort to get the
actual schematics and replace a teeny tiny resistor that has no
marking on it. You do of course know that not all components
exhibit actual visual signs of failure so you have to get a
meter to go in and test with a schematic on components. There is
other test equipment for motherboards  Basically it would cost
the client lots of money and time. Today's components are best
replaced. Would you actually repair a $30 sound card?

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     I do some repairs on laptops like replace bad components. I
don't do component level repairs when I can save time and money
buying a replacement part. I let the good folk who make the
laptop components to the refurbishing work.

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       No that's not what happened. This conversation is going
in circles, I told you what happened more than once.

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       Well I'm glad we agree on something, it is possible for
the malware to behave like I said it did. Now that we've got
that cleared up. There is no need to waste my time explaining
what happened yet again.

John

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That's like some electricians I know that call all 9" linemans pliers
klein, even tho they aren't. As klein is actually a company name.
 
While both are soldering irons, the smaller more detailed one is
commonly called a pencil and the other, for heavier soldering work; a
gun. For pretty obvious reasons; one looks like a gun, the other a big
fat crayon size pencil <G>


http://www.cooperhandtools.com/brands/weller/index.cfm?model_list=1
&att_id=WEL012%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&att1=Soldering%
20Stations%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&att2=Replacement%
20Soldering%20Pencils

Soldering pencils by weller...

http://www.cooperhandtools.com/brands/weller/index.cfm?model_list=1
&att_id=WEL001%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&att1=Soldering%
20and%20Heat%20Guns%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&att2=Soldering%20Gun%20Kits

Soldering gun by weller. Obviously, pictures alone show you why they
are called the respective things.

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I was talking specifically about the bad leaking capacitors; it takes
less than 10 minutes to determine what the board needs as far as those
go. Considering mainboards back when this was still a new issue were
atleast a bill for AT class, It was cheaper to replace the caps than
sell the customer a new mainboard. Not all shops did that route tho,
some would gladly take another bill or two from the customer to replace
a faulty component the store sold the customer just a few months back.

In some cases, an RMA was possible so the store wasn't out anything,
but in other cases, the store and the customer both lose if you can't
RMA the bad board.

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I know that many components don't display visual failure signs, but in
fairness, I did cite a specific example; and a visual inspection would
clearly tell you if a cap suffered from this or not.

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A sound card isn't a mainboard. It really depends. If I can fix the
issue in a few minutes and not have to reinstall drivers or anything
else that goes along with swapping parts out, sure I would. Unless I
have an identical (right down to the revision and eeprom) card to go in
it's place; otherwise I have to get drivers and deal with windows
possibly being unhappy about the previous cards drivers, ad nausem.
 
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Most of the time the component that needs replacing is a swap out, plug
and play kinda deal; even the cpu is this way most of the time. What
isn't that way is the little wire connectors on the laptops mainboard;
that will require a soldering pencil, or passing it off to be done by
someone else.
 
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You already explained you found a registry key pointing to starting the
missing file up. So if you didn't miss this, how else did it get there?
 
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Have a good day John with your professional work n all.


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your Christ."  - author unknown.

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Dustin wrote:
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Hey, how did you know I am a licensed electrician?
And yes, it is common in the trade to call them 'kleins', like in, 'can I
borrow your kleins?'
Buffalo :)



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Yep. Dykes as well, linemans, whatever. :) I have the kobalt set right
now; as I killed my GB ones; they won't even cut romex now without
putting up a fight. I'm not sure yet if I like the spring loaded kobalt
ones I'm using now, but they sure do making cutting wire a since. They
even cut MC cable now, without me snapping it in the place I want to cut
first. Love em, and affordable at Lowe's.

I didn't know your a licensed electrician. Are you a holding a
journeymans license at present, or outright master electrician?

I'm just a lowly apprentice with no official licensing yet.



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"I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians. They are so unlike
your Christ."  - author unknown.

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Dustin wrote:
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Journeyman license. Never went for the Masters since I don't contract.
Buffalo
PS: When I ask  for a  liney, I usually mean a beer (Leinenkugel).  :)



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On 8/3/2010 2:47 PM, Buffalo wrote:
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        It's like people calling powdered drink mix from Flavor
Aid,   "Kool-Aid". I'm sure we've all heard the expression,
"Drinking the Kool-Aid" when talking about someone who follows
something or someone blindly. Well it came from the Jim Jones
tragedy in Jonestown, Guyana. They drank poisonded Flavor Aid
but most people still call it Kool-Aid.

     They just wrote me an essay trying to explain why some
people call them soldering pencils and soldering guns rather
than irons. I've heard those expressions before, it's just a
matter of the person's background and doesn't really mean much.

John


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Same sort of thing applies to crescent wrench (Crescent is a brand name
of a very popular open end adjustaqble wrench). Crowbar is another,
where a wrecking bar is almost always incorrectly called a crowbar.
Dykes are a misnomer for the shortening of the tool known as a "diagonal
cutter".

Most people don't care about using correct terminology, and so there is
often confusion and shouts of *mere semantics* when someone tries to
inform them.



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FromTheRafters wrote:
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I'm gonna have to go get my vacuum cleaner and Hoover up some of the
debris here!

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| Same sort of thing applies to crescent wrench (Crescent is a brand name
| of a very popular open end adjustaqble wrench). Crowbar is another,
| where a wrecking bar is almost always incorrectly called a crowbar.
| Dykes are a misnomer for the shortening of the tool known as a "diagonal
| cutter".

| Most people don't care about using correct terminology, and so there is
| often confusion and shouts of *mere semantics* when someone tries to
| inform them.


Mom always told me not to be anti semantic  :-)

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:oD



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FromTheRafters wrote:
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I'd bet Dustin wouldn't think it unusual if someone actually requested a Pepsi
when someone offered to buy them a "Coke".

...and for the benefit of non Americans;
Coke - The shortened name for a product of the Coca Cola company that has
become colloquial slang for any carbonated soft drink.

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Yep, that's another one.

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If I send someone out for coke, I sure don't want them coming back with
a pepsi. :oD

Band-Aid is another brand name embedded in the popular US lexicon.
Kleenex another.




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| Yep, that's another one.

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| If I send someone out for coke, I sure don't want them coming back with
| a pepsi. :oD

| Band-Aid is another brand name embedded in the popular US lexicon.
| Kleenex another.

Xerox

You can go to a Kyocera and Xerox a copy.


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Indeed, and wet method copies get called xerox copies as well even
though xerography is a dry copying process.



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Of course not. Although, personally; I don't care for pepsi products as
much as I do coke.
 


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your Christ."  - author unknown.

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On 8/4/2010 3:01 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
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      Terminology is subject to any number of factors. It's
perfectly correct to use "virus" when talking about trojans and
worms. It's also perfectly correct to call all three "bugs". It
just matters what the prevailing thinking is. Also professionals
who actually make software that remove malware  often called
their products anti-virus software.

John


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::oD

But then again...
    Maybe Mom meant not to be anti Symantec  ;-)



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"FromTheRafters" wrote:

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Especially when you're expecting the finest Bolivian marching powder!



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| "FromTheRafters" wrote:

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| Especially when you're expecting the finest Bolivian marching powder!


I tried Coke once but the ice cubes got stuck in my nose.  :-)

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